There is some variance as to the appropriate
VBW setting to make an accurate average measurement.
As I recall there is (and I have forgotten what it is)
a ratio that must be maintaied between the RBW and the VBw
settings. Our Spectrum Analyzer uses a 30Hz bandwidth setting
(for conducted emissions) but one lab mentioned that a
1kHz VBw should be the minimum.

Chas Grasso


From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ralph McDiarmid
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:45 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Average Detection


It's my understanding that the 10Hz VBW provides a filter time-constant
approximating that of an average detector.

Ralph McDiarmid, AScT
Compliance Engineering Group
Xantrex Technology Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Cokenias
> Sent: August 23, 2004 6:51 AM
> To: Ridler, Samantha; '[email protected]'
> Subject: Re: Average Detection
>
>
> Hello Samantha,
>
> For analyzers that do not incorporate an average detector,
> the FCC has specified settings of RBW 1 MHz and VBW of 10 Hz
> for average measurements in other parts of the Rules for
> measurements above 1 GHz.  They have been accepting these
> settings for many years for spread spectrum and now 802.11
> radios operating under 15.247 of the Rules.
>
> best regards
>
> Tom Cokenias
>
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> At 8:21 AM +0100 8/23/04, Ridler, Samantha wrote:
> >Hello All
> >
> >FCC part 18 requires the use of an Average detector.  For
> measurements
> >above 1GHz on a HP8593E  EMC (Spectrum) analyser,  would
> using a Video
> >Average of 100 or more be equivalent to taking a measurement with an
> >Average detector?
> >
> >
> >It has been suggested to me by a test house that this is the
> case,  but
> >I have not managed to find any rationale for this.
> >
> >The setup for the Analyser in question during the measurent was as
> >follows if this helps: SPAN = 2GHz,  RBW =1MHz, VBW = 3MHz,
> SWEEP =40ms
> >
> >Many thanks.
> >
> >Samantha Ridler   BEng MIEE
> >Compliance Engineer
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