Re: French in Canada

        > In Canada - and I think all provinces not just Québec,  French must 
        > be first and more prominent than English and they pay people to check 
on it.
        


Nope. Sorry to say but you are wrong about that. Canada is bilingual and there
is no requirement for one language to be presented first or more prominently
with the exception of business signs in the Province of Québec, where public
signage is required to be in French only, or pictographic.

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On 24-August-2011, at 13:27, Pat Lawler DIGEST wrote:



        Hmm . . . I wonder if the phrase 'French fries' will be treated as 
French or
English? 
        
        Pat Lawler
        EMC Engineer
        SL Power Electronics Corp. 
        
        "McInturff, Gary" <[email protected]> wrote on 08/23/2011 
02:19:35
PM:
        > Oh snap -(Mon Dieu mon Fromage!)  I think I see goon squads heading 
        > your way - mostly likely entry point is from Quebec, but I wouldn't 
        > get near any planes, trains, or buses that arrive from France. They 
        > recently have spent time and effort to weed out non-French words ( I
        > can't remember any specifically - cheeseburger maybe?) because they 
        > are losing their heritage. So I'm not sure they are going to want to
        > hear that French is the new Latin. Run,  my friend,  run
        
        > In Canada - and I think all provinces not just Québec,  French must 
        > be first and more prominent than English and they pay people to check 
on it.
        
        > 
        > (Yes I know Fromage is cheese not Friend - I'm just making sure no 
        > language police think I'm on your side)
        
        > ----Original Message-----
        > From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:[email protected]]
        > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:14 PM
        > To: [email protected]
        > Subject: Re: [PSES] Required Notices to the User per Industry Canada 
RSS-Gen
        
        > My wife said that French is the new Latin - is this analogy the 
reason for
        > the inherent precision?
        
        > American English (not the southeast or northeast stuff) is used by 
too many
        > peoples to be nothing less than ambiguous. Should we all learn French 
and
        > use in standards? An IEC standard for English? I would prefer that the
        > engineering community define a grammar and syntax over any effort by 
lawyers
        > or artistic bureaucrats.
        
        > Brian
        
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of John
        > Woodgate
        > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:55 PM
        > To: [email protected]
        > Subject: Re: Required Notices to the User per Industry Canada RSS-Gen
        
        > In message 
<[email protected]>,
        > dated Tue, 23 Aug 2011, Christopher <[email protected]> writes:
        
        > >This what I have maybe it can be of some help.
        > >Christopher
        > >
        > >French:"
        > >Le présent appareil est conforme aux CNR d'Industrie Canada 
applicables
        > >aux appareils radio
        > >exempts de licence. L'exploitation est autorisée aux deux conditions 
sui
        > >vantes : (1) l'appareil ne
        > >doit pas produire de brouillage, et (2) l'utilisateur de l'appareil 
doit
        > > accepter tout brouillage
        > >radioélectrique subi, même si le brouillage est susceptible d'en 
comprom
        > >ettre le fonctionnement."
        > >
        > >
        > >Here is the English translation just for your reference:
        > >- English: "
        > >This device complies with Industry Canada licence-exempt RSS 
standard(s)
        > >. Operation is subject
        > >to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause 
interfere
        > >nce, and (2) this device
        > >must accept any interference, including interference that may cause 
unde
        > >sired operation of the
        > >device."
        
        > It isn't what Grace wants, but just look at how much more precise the
        > French text is:
        
        > This device complies with Industry Canada RSS standard(s)applicable to
        > licence-exempt radio apparatus.
        
        > The English appears to say that the standards are licence-exempt!
        
        > Operation is permitted, subject
        > to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause 
interferen
        > ce, and (2) the user of this device
        > must accept any impressed interference, even if the interference is
        > prone to cause undesired operation of the device.
        
        > The English says the device, not the user, must accept the 
interference.
        > It can hardly do otherwise!
        
        > This is why IEC and ISO still produce most standards in English and
        > French (and some in Spanish now). The French is often more precise,
        > because fewer liberties with grammar and syntax are tolerated.
        
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