I don't mind most audits. It is an opportunity to improve and to learn, and I have met several auditors that are very good in this respect. However, I know one auditor that was definitely on a power trip during an audit. Two of the labs I have worked for have forbid him from setting foot on their property due to his conduct during audits. There is one thing I think is interesting about audits. You can beg and scream for months that you need a particular piece of equipment to better perform your job - sometimes to no avail. But, if an auditor says you need it, it gets bought rather quickly. :-) Bob R.
--- On Mon, 1/24/11, Doug Kramer <[email protected]> wrote: From: Doug Kramer <[email protected]> Subject: RE: my last lab audit To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 4:49 PM Larry, Well stated, except for the power trip comment. -Doug -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <http://us.mc1 .mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected] <http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Larry Stillings Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:37 PM To: '[email protected] <http:// s.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> '; [email protected] <http://us.m 11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> Subject: RE: my last lab audit Brian, Hire a new auditor. I know, easier said then done. I lot of them are on a power trip, that's why they are auditors. Basically, you need to contact whomever runs your particular accreditation body and talk to them. Remember you are a paying customer, and have options to whom your choose for your audits. Larry -----Original Message----- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:[email protected] <http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> ] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:31 PM To: [email protected] <http:/ us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> Subject: my last lab audit auditor: Your software does not meet 17025 - no test data. me: 'That' software is only for a windoze HMI, no data being collected, no data being analyzed, no data processed. auditor: But it displays test parameters. me: There are no reports or design decisions or TRFs being made from this displayed data. Instruments are calibrated and tracible, and the program that acquires and processes the data is subject to audit and a regression series for each rev. 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