In message <5f5a140eb5cb094bb4d2c477c8c4ad99c83...@sjc1amfpew04.am.sanm.corp>, dated Mon, 5 May 2008, "Tarver, Peter" <peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com> writes:
>In the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia, some wind farms have been forced >off the grid, due to 'endangered' or 'threatened' birds flying into >their blades. You're right about the noise issue. The Danes seem to have solved the problem of birds. I don't know how, but they have LOTS of birds around where the wind farms are. > >> >Electric and hybrid vehicles have issues related to the >> > batteries and controls. >> > Firefighters and other emergency workers are concerned about >> > safety in accidents. >> >> Probably largely due to aversion from anything new. There are >> far more hazardous things on the roads. > >Lithium metal plus fire plus water equals explosion hazard and requires >special fire suppression chemicals. Anything dry that excludes oxygen would work, but not CO2: burning lithium decomposes it to finally produce lithium carbonate. >Group IA elements are fond of water. As reported in the local paper, >firefighters will let a Li battery containing vehicle burn itself out, >rather than try to put it out. Probably the most sensible thing to do. If the lithium burns, there won't be anything left worth recovering. But that applies to a gas fire as well. > >I haven't read or heard anyone discuss the disposal issues for large Li >batteries in electric vehicles. Recycle. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Murphy's Law has now been officially re-named The Certainty Principle John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
