If I cannot shut off a car by turning a key or hitting a button without having to hold it down for a period of time, I'm not buying it. And I think I'll make that point to Hertz the next time a rent. I didn't even think about this the last time I rented a car. My 1999 Jeep Wrangler is looking better and better all the time.
Ghery S. Pettit From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: SCV IEEE PSES Meeting, Tuesday, April 27, How to Avoid Being the Next Toyota When I said "different department", I actually was thinking in terms of a department outside the company, ot necessarily accountable to the P&L. Yes, 100% safe is not realizable, since that even includes misused products. However, one would expect to be able to disable, power down, or otherwise STOP a piece of machinery that has gone berzerk. That reasonable expectation has been removed for some unknown reason. It was chilling to listen to the relatively cool voice, given the situation, of the policeman as he was imprisoned for 6 miles at high speed before he and his whole family perished. Had he been able to do the simple act of shutting off the engine, they would not have died. It's not reasonable to have 100% safe equipment, but there at least should be some type of failsafe exit mode. > In message <003501cae003$825da7a0$8718f6e0$@com>, dated Mon, 19 Apr > 2010, Dennis Ward <[email protected]> writes: > >>Ah yes - the 'Risk Management Team' - better know as the 'How many >>people can die and how much money can be lost in law suits before we >>make a safe product' team. > > What alternative do you suggest? I don't mean a paraphrase in 'more > acceptable' words. > > It's not possible to make a 100% safe product, so how near to 100% do we > need to be? Treat it as a question of morality, not commerce or > engineering and you still end up with the same sort of decision. > -- > OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk > John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK > I should be disillusioned, but it's not worth the effort. > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > <[email protected]> > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc > Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that > URL. > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas <[email protected]> > Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> > David Heald: <[email protected]> > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
