As an industry practice, which method is more commonly used? There would be 
some setup time involved for testing tabletop equipment with either method. If 
anyone has input on their preference it would be helpful.
 
Most standards are CISPR based so we must follow the CISPR methods so we have a 
common test setup.
 
Thanks,
Tim Pierce
 
 
In a message dated 9/23/2009 8:01:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

        Before the CISPR standards included the level of detail they do now 
about the test setup for emissions, we used the ANSI C63.4 standard for test 
setup. The latest version I have in our library is the 2001 version which says, 

         

        ANSI C63.4:2001, Section 5.2.2 Vertical Conducting Plane

         

        A tabletop device may be measured for AC powerline conducted emissions 
without a vertical conducting plane while maintaining the 80 cm EUT elevation 
specified in 6.2.1. However, in case of a dispute, ac powerline conducted 
emission measurements made on a tabletop device with a vertical, conducting 
plane in place shall take precedence. 

         

         

        Also, interesting enough, CISPR11 (EN55011:2006) doesn’t even mention a 
vertical plane for conducted emissions testing. I  interpreted it as allowing 
you to perform conducted emissions on an OATS using the same setup as Radiated 
Emissions which would include the 80 cm table and no vertical plane. It would 
appear as if the 40cm table is only required for options b) and c) below.

         

        CISPR11:2006, Section 7.1 Measurement of mains terminal disturbance 
voltage

         

        The measurement of the mains terminal disturbance voltage may be 
carried out:

        a)       on the radiation test site with the equipment under test 
having the same configuration as used during the radiation measurement;

        b)      above a metal ground plane which shall extend at least 0,5 m 
beyond the boundary of the equipment under test and have a minimum size of 2 m 
× 2 m; or

        c)       within a screened room. Either the floor or one wall of the 
screened room shall act as the ground plane.

         

        Option a) shall be used where the test site contains a metal ground 
plane. 

         

        In options b) and c) the test unit, if non-floor-standing, shall be 
placed 0,4 m from the ground plane. 

         

        Floorstanding test units shall be placed on the ground plane, the 
point(s) of contact being insulated from the ground plane but otherwise 
consistent with normal use. All test units shall be at least 0,8 m from any 
other metal surface.

         

        Does EN55022 allow conducted emissions to be performed on an OATS 
without the vertical plane and with an 80 cm table? It sounds like it does as 
an optional configuration (I’m not an expert on EN55022).

        I would interpret a Semi-Anechoic chamber the same as an OATS. 

         

        The Other Brian

        
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        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Spencer, David H
        Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:50 AM
        To: Wan Juang Foo; [email protected]; [email protected]
        Subject: RE: Conducted emission measurements

         

        Tim,

         

        From EN55022:2006 +A1: 2007

         

        Section 9.5.2  Tabletop equipment arrangement

         

         

        2) "...........(for example on an open area test site (OATS) or in a 
screened enclosure).  The EUT shall be placed on a non-conductive table such 
that it is 0,4m above the horizontal ground reference plane."

         

         

        Regards,

         

        David Spencer

        EMC Engineer

        Xerox Corp.

         

         

         

                
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                From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Wan Juang Foo
                Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:46 AM
                To: [email protected]; [email protected]
                Cc: Wan Juang Foo
                Subject: Re: Conducted emission measurements

                Hello Tim,
                I may be missing. Is there such a 40 cm height? Here is my 5 ¢ 
worth. 
                
                These are some of the the special provision for conducted 
emission testing: 

                To meet EN 55011, I suppose since 1999?? the measurement may be 
carried out: 

                - on the radiated emission test site (same EUT configuration)
                - above a metal ground plane which shall extend at least
                50 cm beyond the boundary of the equipment under test
                and have a minimum size of 2m x 2m 
                - within a screened room; either the floor or one wall of
                the screened room shall act as the vertical ground plane

                .. CISPR 22 since (1993) and Amendment 1 (1995) 

                Table- top EUTis to be placed 40 cm from a vertical metal 
reference plane (e.g. a wall of a screened room/enclosure)
                "The EUT, where intended for table-top use, shall be placed 0,4 
m from a vertical metal reference plane of at least 2 m by 2 m and shall be 
kept at least 0,8 m from any other metal surface or other ground-plane not 
being part of the EUT. If the measurement. is made in a screened enclosure, the 
distance of 0,4 m may be referred to one of the walls of the enclosure."
                Floor- standing EUT on a horizontal metal ground- plane, not in 
metallic contact with the ground- plane. Metal floor of a screened room may 
replace the reference ground- plane

                
                best regards,
                Tim Foo
                
                Expert Witness, EMC and Product Safety 
                ECE, School of Engineering,
                http://www.np.edu.sg/ece/ DID: +65 6460 6143
                Ngee Ann Polytechnic, 
                535 Clementi Road, Fax: +65 6467 1730
                Singapore 599489
                
                [email protected] wrote on 23/09/2009 06:06:05 AM:
                
                > Hello Group,
                >  
                > I have a question about the conducted emission measurements 
                > performed in a semi-anechoic chamber.
                >  
                > CISPR 22 requires the use of a vertical ground plane when 
testing 
                > tabletop EUTs, unless you mount your EUT on a non-conductive 
table 
                > 40cm above the horizontal ground plane (instead of the 
traditional 80cm)
                >  
                > I did not find a requirement for a vertical ground plane when 
                > testing floorstanding equipment. If one opts to use the 
alternative 
                > method of not using the vertical ground plane, can 
floorstanding 
                > equipment also be tested without the vertical ground plane? 
The 
                > horizontal ground plane is always present since that is the 
chamber floor.
                >  
                > What are most labs using? We have the option of making a 
removable 
                > vertical ground plane "wall" or mounting the equipment on a 
40cm table.
                >  
                > Thanks,
                > Tim Pierce
                > - 

                
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