No joke. Sorry they’re out of stock. They are funny. I’m not sure how selective they are on frequency response. Guess I ought to bring it into work and test it some time. ☺
Ghery S. Pettit From: Barron, Manny (IS) [mailto:manny.bar...@ngc.com] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:59 PM To: Pettit, Ghery; ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen; ri...@ieee.org; emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Subject: RE: "Compliance costs too much." Hi Ghery, I thought you were joking about the Wi-Fi Tee Shirt. But it's real at the link you provided – except they're out of stock. Every size, from S to XXL is out of stock – with no ETA on new inventory. These would be great to wear when doing IEC61000-4-3 or RS103 testing. Bummer! Manny Barron From: emc-p...@ieee.org<mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]<mailto:[mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]> On Behalf Of Pettit, Ghery Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 7:56 AM To: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen; ri...@ieee.org<mailto:ri...@ieee.org>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: EXT :RE: "Compliance costs too much." How about my shirt from ThinkGeek.com that lights up in the presence of a WiFi signal? ☺ Ghery S. Pettit From: emc-p...@ieee.org<mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]<mailto:[mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]> On Behalf Of ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:41 AM To: ri...@ieee.org<mailto:ri...@ieee.org>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: "Compliance costs too much." Management considers anything that has no direct impact on sales as a cost. Everything that boosts sales or lowers costs (=profit) is an investment. As long as the performance of companies is calculated on a basis of direct profit (sales minus costs) only, in other words as long as capitalism remains the only driving force of our economy (nothing bad about capitalism in itself), compliance engineering will be seen as a direct cost and needs thus needs to be reduced as much as possible. As soon as the faces of our customers turn green on exposure of emissions, compliance will impact sales and will be become an investment. If you now conclude that compliance engineering is a democrat issue, you must be wrong !?! Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl<mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl> www.cetest.nl<http://www.cetest.nl> Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953 Before printing, think about the environment. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org<mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]<mailto:[mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]> Namens Richard Nute Verzonden: Friday, March 30, 2012 5:24 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Onderwerp: "Compliance costs too much." I once worked with an EMC engineer who measured the performance of himself and his time by the cost of the components that were used in the equipment solely for the purpose of EMC control. His objective was to reduce the cost of compliance by advising designers of careful layout so as to minimize the need for EMC components. Safety is a bit different because many safety components are also functional components. Nevertheless, a ground wire can be eliminated if double-insulation is employed. In this example, a cost trade-off between the power cord and the extra insulation. But, these days, most primary circuit designs are indeed double-insulated as transformers simply don't use internal shields. Enclosures... only needed for primary circuits and secondary circuits exceeding 30 V. (Yes, you still want an enclosure, but not for safety!) Etc. So, compliance should not cost too much. I look forward to your comments on compliance costing too much. Rich - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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