To add to the discussion, I believe that in 2009, the Province of Ontario, Canada intended to initiate a program forcing manufacturing electrical products to register with the Province, for a yearly fee. This was in addition to the third-party approvals held by most products. The program seemed to evaporate before implementation. IIRC, they were concerned with the number of non-approved and unsafe products that were being seen in the marketplace. This seems to indicate that the current system is not as effective as they would like in promoting the safety of products. Current surveillance budgets may not be adequate to catch these questionable products.
Best Regards, Brian C. Brian Ceresney, CTech. Regulatory Team Lead, Delta-Q Technologies Corp. 3755 Willingdon Ave., Burnaby, BC Canada V5G 3H3 Tel: 604-566-8827 www.delta-q.com [email protected] Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Knudsen, Patricia Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium "Could a self-declaration 'system' function well in North America without public safety reduction? For just discrete, narrow classes of goods?" You would probably see an initial increase in non-compliant products. However, this being the U.S., that would correspond to an increase in lawsuits against the manufacturers. Patty Knudsen Product Safety Engineering 17095 Via del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-3748 Teradata Labs [email protected] teradata.com Facebook -----Original Message----- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium Significance of CE mark to EU customs/surveillance is obvious and not point (other than my head). Need to understand why there are different or no surveillance systems in place in North America, and if product compliance regulations are different because of regional market demands or political control issues or cultural philosophies. Could a self-declaration 'system' function well in North America without public safety reduction? For just discrete, narrow classes of goods? Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium In message <[email protected]>, dated Sat, 18 Aug 2012, Brian Oconnell <[email protected]> writes: > Note that the U.S. OSHA has (figuratively) declared war on the >self-declaration process, and has specifically published stuff saying >that the 'CE' does not indicate the any specific safety compliance. Well, it doesn't; it's not intended to. Nor did any of the former national safety marks, such as SEMKO. The Declaration of Conformity indicates the specific safety compliance. The CE mark is an indication to customs officers and market surveillance officers that a DoC exists and the product should be admitted to the EU, cross national borders within it and can be offered for sale. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. 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