This has been an INTERESTING discussion.

I plead guilty to having worded my initial comment poorly; a smart battery must be tested in a configuration that that duplicates the one it is used in, and that exercises each of its functions; the question Bob asked was about, "...batteries that communication with the charger or EUT for charge rates, time left, overheating, etc." That clearly requires some smart batteries be tested inside the powered equipment, first because emissions they create may be shielded by that equipment, and second, because attaching cables for testing in alone adds antennas that both radiate emissions and are more efficient receptors for immunity tests than a battery installed in the powered equipment and shielded by it may be. If an external is used, it would be proper to test that configuration as a stand-alone test as well as running the pwored equipment with them installed..

In Ed's example batteries were normally connected to the powered equipment with wires and it would be appropriate to test that not only with cabling, but perhaps on a mannequin or a human torso equivalent material. Whole body SAR, anyone?.

MIL-STD-461 requires wiring and cables used during a test be "representative" of the aircraft wiring. I once saw a system for a cargo/passenger aircraft tested (not my lab -- I was officially an observer and helper on that project) with full-length wiring on pegboards (still an improvement over spaghetti on the table), stacked on top of each other to fit in a chamber. This is not really representative of an aircraft and I suspect few tests of long cables in a chamber really are. That is another issue. The relevance here is that the test should be done in a way that both creates radiators equivalent to the end use and receptors that will deliver equivalent RF to the device under test. There's room here for some enterprising and cash-flush (heh) lab to produce a White Paper.

VERY interesting discussion.

Cortland Richmond


On 8/23/2012 1234, Ken Javor wrote:
Re: "Smart" Batteries That is simply not true in the general case. What about a 28 Vdc battery that backs up the essential bus on an aircraft? What about a MANPACK battery that is discharged while being worn, and connected to a mains or generated-powered charger after the mission is over.

In the commercial world, what about a battery designed to be used in an UPS? I have purchased several replacement batteries designed to replace the OEM battery in same.

Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261


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"Smart" batteries are electronic subassemblies that don't work properly outside of the equipment in which they are meant to be used and must be tested in it.

 Cortland Richmond

 On 8/22/2012 1243, [email protected] wrote:



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