Another difference is "tested"  vs. "qualified".

 

In the MIL world the emc testing of a stand-alone smart-battery *may be*
used for qualification, depending on the procurement.

In the commercial world the emc testing of a stand-alone smart-battery
*cannot be* used for qualification, due to the lack of intrinsic
function.

 

//

Patrick 

 

From: Ken Javor [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] "Smart" Batteries

 

The difference is that in the case of stand-alone batteries, they are
qualified without connection to "the equipment in which they are meant
to be used... ."  Instead, they are connected to a generic load
representative of in situ current draw, and a fixed potential charging
source with fixed low output resistance.
  
Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261



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From: Bill Owsley <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Bill Owsley <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
To: Ken Javor <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: "Smart" Batteries

It must be in the syntax, but it seems these two just agreed on the
subject.

  
 
 
  

________________________________

 From: Ken Javor <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: "Smart" Batteries
  
 
Re: "Smart" Batteries 
That is simply not true in the general case.  What about a 28 Vdc
battery that backs up the essential bus on an aircraft? What about a
MANPACK battery that is discharged while being worn, and connected to a
mains or generated-powered charger after the mission is over.

In the commercial world, what about a battery designed to be used in an
UPS? I have purchased several replacement batteries designed to replace
the OEM battery in same.
  
Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261



________________________________

From: Cortland Richmond <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:58:15 -0400
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: "Smart" Batteries

   
"Smart" batteries are electronic subassemblies that don't work properly
outside of the equipment in which they are meant to be used and must be
tested in it.
 
 Cortland Richmond
 
 On 8/22/2012 1243, [email protected] wrote:
 
 

Can someone tell me if there are any EMC standards for the so-called
"smart" batteries? These are batteries that communication with the
charger or EUT for charge rates, time left, overheating, etc. 
 
 Thanks,
 Bob Heller
 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208
 Tel: 651-778-6336
 Fax: 651-778-6252
 


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