John Good points, and I generally agree.
But, if you are a technically competent company, it should be relatively easy - if your consider that you do need to - to get your servicing or development departments to check these aspects out on the item(s) concerned, and thus confirm that that the equipment complies with the as-shipped/certified build state, or NOT. John Allen W. London, UK -----Original Message----- From: John R Merrill [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 17 March 2016 20:39 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Certification status of a re-sold UPS Hello Lauren In general would call it Status Unknown. The issues become how do you verify that it has not been tampered with while it was in an uncontrolled environment? Would you be able to tell if all the original required documents were included in the box with the product? Unless you are in the business of refurbishing equipment this may be hard to ascertain. Not saying it can't be done but it is a non-trivial task. Second question you need to ask is what is the impact of it being one way or the other? Is their a liability if a piece of customer documentation is missing? Or if a component has been replaced with an unapproved source? Regards, John John Merrill | Schneider Electric | USA | Industry Business | Principal Product Safety Engineer | Phone: 978 975 9710 | ext:59710 | Email: [email protected] | Site:www.schneider-electric.com | Address: BostonOneCampus, 800 Federal St, Andover MA 01810 | **** Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail**** From: "Crane, Lauren" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], Date: 03/17/2016 03:45 PM Subject: [PSES] UL Certification status of a re-sold UPS Hello all, I am looking for some insight on how to understand the certification status of a UPS that was originally UL Certified but is being resold after having spent some time with another owner. I see in the UL YEDU.GuideInfo for Uninterruptible Power-supply Equipment a paragraph which says… REBUILT PRODUCTS This category also covers UPS equipment that is rebuilt by the original manufacturer or another party having the necessary facilities, technical knowledge and manufacturing skills. Rebuilt UPS equipment is rebuilt to the extent necessary by disassembly and reassembly using new or reconditioned parts. Rebuilt UPS equipment is subject to the same requirements as new UPS equipment. I think my basic question is – if an item is bought used and it bears a proper certification mark, should one consider it still certified? Or, does certification only extend to the first user, and if resold an item must be re-inspected to the original criteria and “certified again”? I think there is a difference between “re-sold” and “rebuilt”, but I’m not quite sure what the details must be. 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