And not to confuse the issue even more, but then there is the N.E.S.C. -
National Electrical Safety Code (or nowadays ANSI Standard C2) published
by IEEE. Adopted in most states in some fashion, except for California
which does its own thing. I think this one is primarily aimed at
utilities though. Dates back to 1913.
On 7/25/2016 6:34 PM, Brian O'Connell wrote:
Correct, National Electric Code is pro forma NFPA70, or at least per
administrative laws of each U.S. state.
But the reader should understand that there are state and municipal
regulations that also specifically and formally refer to NFPA79 and
NFPA99 as national building codes.
And the NFPA itself refers to 99 as a national 'Code'.
The scope of the thread was OSHA per the NEC and associated test
standards, where my premise is that 'code' and standards evolve and
are contrived via various circular references.
And Mr. Nute pointed to the problem of the various NEC versions
enacted locally (most, but not all, have adopted 2014) vs the
referenced product safety standard that would be used to verify
compliance by the AHJ. And the OSHA cannot affect any force for an
organizing change as their statue scopes only workplace safety.
Brian
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NEC is specifically NFPA 70, otherwise known as the National
Electrical Code.
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By 'NEC", will assume that the reference is something like NFPA70
or 79. There are, as we all know, many other elements of NFPA
construction requirements . NFPAs can reference ANSI, IEC, NEMA,
ASME, IEEE, and other standards; and many ANSI, NEMA, and IEEE
standards reference one or more NFPA elements in the scope
statements. So the references are intended to be circular.
Brian
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*Subject:* Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US
“Each NRTL has a scope of test standards that they are recognized
for…”
https://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/
Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratories (NRTLs)
<https://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/>
www.osha.gov
OSHA's Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL) Program.
Recognizes private sector organizations to perform certification
for certain products to ensure that ...
NRTL certification for OSHA purposes is limited to its scope of
test standards. Check out your favorite NRTL for its OSHA test
standards.
We don’t yet know whether the NEC is limited to the OSHA NRTL
scope test standards or is open to all test standards the NRTL
certifies products to. (Awful English, but understandable.)
And, we don’t yet know whether the locally-adopted NEC will be the
OSHA NRTL scope test standards or will be open to all test
standards the NRTL certifies products to.
Rich
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