OSHA & the related NRTL mandatory certification is only for the commercial/office/industrial workplace. OSHA has no jurisdiction in the consumer environment. The FCC is for both environments.
Regan On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 8:29 PM <000006cee064502d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> wrote: > Thank you Ted, Rich and Regan, > > The product is classified as IT and is sold to pro market. i.e it is used > by professional and not consumer market. There two types of products. Class > I as well as Class III. They are mainly used in corporation conference > rooms. > > With that in mind, what are your thoughts about mandatory NRTL > certification as well as FCC? > > Thanks > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Eckert <000007cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> > To: EMC-PSTC <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2020 6:16 pm > Subject: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification > > Hello Peter, > > Let me add to Rich and Regan’s comments. > > The question for residential installations isn’t as clear as for the > workplace. Most jurisdictions in the United States have adopted the > National Electrical Code which requires many electrical and electronic > products to either be Listed or to be investigated and approved by the > local Authority Having Jurisdiction. In practice, this typically will apply > to hard-wired products or products attached to building structure. The > enforcement is typically through an electrical inspection which will often > not cover plug-connected devices. > > In the workplace, any product that has a direct connection to the mains > will need NRTL approval. At the other end of the spectrum, a product like a > USB mouse or remote control using alkaline batteries likely won’t need NRTL > approval. In theory, I believe an OSHA inspector could enforce the NRTL > requirement on any electrical product, but that won’t necessarily be what > happens in practice. > > That being said, you can choose not to get NRTL approval for your product. > However, you need to understand the risks your product may pose. If you > sell products to commercial customers, are you meeting their needs? Will > your products be acceptable to them? If you have a low-voltage device that > isn’t mains connected, you will need to understand your customer’s needs > before you make any determination about skipping NRTL approval. > > Let’s use the USB mouse example. If you sell a USB mouse that has no NRTL > approval, you can state that you are selling a product to the general > public for home use where NRTL approval for a mouse is clearly not > required. You can then argue that any business that purchases it is making > their own decision on whether to accept a non-NRTL product. However, it is > up to you, your employer and your employer’s legal department on whether > you should take this approach. > > Ted Eckert > The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of my employer, > OSHA or the U.S. Department of Labor. > > *From:* Richard Nute <ri...@ieee.org> > *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 3:52 PM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification > > > Hi Peter: > > I can only speak to NRTL certification. > > If your product can be used in a workplace, then NRTL certification is > mandatory. > > In most non-workplace locations, safety certification is mandatory. A > local authority specifies the acceptable certification houses. Most local > authorities specify the NRTL certification houses. > > Certification by a NRTL certification house is accepted almost universally > in the USA. > > Best regards, > Rich > > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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