I agree with Brian. I've been involved with product safety over 20 yrs and worked for an NRTL for about 6 of those.
The 40 A requirement came from the Canadian electrical code and all the NRTLs. The only exemptions I've seen to the 100 % ground bond requirement has been for Class II and Class III devices or devices using an external power supply (brick or wall-wart styles.) Josh From: Brian Kunde <bkundew...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 8:42 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Ground Bond Tests EXTERNAL SENDER: Verify links, attachments and sender before taking action 61010-1 § 4.1 says, "Tests in this standard are TYPE TESTS to be carried out on samples of equipment or parts. Their only purpose is to check that the design and construction ensure conformity with this standard. In addition, manufacturers shall perform the ROUTINE TESTS of Annex F on 100 % of equipment produced which has both HAZARDOUS LIVE parts and ACCESSIBLE conductive parts." 61010-1 Annex F, § F2 calls out the "Protective earth" test, also known as the Ground Bond Test, as a required test to be performed on 100% of production. Note the "NOTE" that says, "No value is specified for the test current.". So some NRTL inspectors allow the ground bond test in production to be performed at any reasonable current value, but most will follow the requirements of 6.5.2. I have been doing Product Safety for over 30 years and have worked with UL, CSA, TUV, NEMKO, EOLAS, etc., and all of them require 100% testing of production units to both the Highpot test and the Ground Bond test. Regarding the 100mΩ verses 200mΩ question, all the NRTL inspectors I have worked with require the measured impedance of the Power Cord to be no more than 100mΩ. Note the UL/ANSI/CSA Deviation to 6.5.2.4 that instead of the 100mΩ requirement has a "shall not cause a potential drop of more than 4 V". At a minimum 40 A ground bond test, a 100mΩ impedance would give you a 4V drop. It doesn't say anything about an 8V drop for non-detachable power cords. So NRTLs are going to stick with the 100mΩ across the board, I believe (this is opinion). Hope this information is helpful. The Other Brian On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:27 PM Steve Brody <sgbr...@comcast.net<mailto:sgbr...@comcast.net>> wrote: So here is my question, or actually two of them: First, one of my clients has been told by their 3rd party NRTL that a ground bond test is required as part of factory/production routine tests, even though it is not required by 61010-1. I have never run into this requirement in my work history and I would be interested in hearing if any of you have. Second, just to be sure my interpretation is correct, 61010-1, section 6.5.2.4, Impedance of protective bonding of plug-connected equipment, in the fist sentence, it has a limit of 100 mOhms impedance and my read is that this is for equipment with a power cord that has a plug on one end and a receptacle on the other. Then, in the same section, still under the title of plug-connected equipment, it says for equipment that has a non-detachable power cord the limit is 200 mOhms. My interpretation is that plug-connected equipment with a non-detachable power cord is when the power cord is hard wired to the unit under test, but still has a plug for mains connection. Thoughts? 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