Hi David, At the moment, only one machinery related standard even opens the door for AI in functional safety systems: ISO 13849-1:2023. That standard only says that AI “can be used,” but immediately goes on to say that no information on how to do that or how to validate the results are given in the standard. ISO JTC 1/SC 42 and IEC/TC 65/SC 65A have been working on a document, ISO/IEC/DTR 5469, Artificial intelligence — Functional safety and AI systems <https://www.iso.org/standard/81283.html>, for some time now, and there is no available target date for publication.
The automotive sector has made more progress in this direction. There was an IEEE SA webinar entitled "RISK-BASED METHODOLOGY FOR DERIVING SCENARIOS FOR TESTING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SYSTEMS <https://engagestandards.ieee.org/Risk-Based-Methodology-AI-Systems-Registration.html>” that discussed a risk assessment methodology that Barnaby Simkin from NVIDIA developed. It was good, but I think it’s very premature to be entrusting safety to AI systems. Doug Nix [email protected] +1 (519) 729-5704 > On Jun 7, 2023, at 10:37, David Huff <[email protected]> wrote: > > All, > I am working to guide a design that uses Artificial Intelligence and machine > vision thru a certification type process (CE Mark) and I am looking for ISO > or IEC standards or similar related guidance. My theory is that this is such > new territory very little guidance exists yet. Are there any recommendations > for international guidance. > > Thanks, > David > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Mike Cantwell <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > David Heald <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: > https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1 > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]> _________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1
