John and James,
Thank you so much for your valuable feedback.
I see a lot of products that are used in the professional market that
do not have any type of 3rd party certification and they are being
sold on the market and they are from some big manufacturers. So would
you agree that 3rd party certification is not mandatory but rather
valuntary?
Thanks
Peter
On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 05:48:11 AM PST, James Hulbert
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We all own a debit of gratitude to Leonard Frier.
Jim Hulbert
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Here is a copy of the Federal Register back in 1988.............
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*Subject:* Re: [PSES] Mandatory NRTL certification
Hello and Happy New Year!!
I hope to simplify and clarify the vagueness - See OSHA's definition
of acceptable installation below.
OSHA requires NRTL if there is an applicable Standard (item 1). If
there is not an applicable Standard the AHJ can accept his own
evaluation or another Federal agency's evaluation (item 2), or if the
equipment is custom the AHJ can accept the manufacturers test data
(item 3).
Our experience is Field Evaluation labeling satisfies most AHJs for
items 2 and 3. I believe AHJs do not want the liability of accepting
non-Certified installations and prefer an NRTL FE label at a minimum.
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Happy New Year.
The US Dept of Labor has a mandate to enforce workplace safety
regulations. One of its many agencies is the Occupational Safety and
Health Administration which is tasked with ensuring a safe work
environment by enforcing product compliance by the application of US
standards and done by accredited laboratories. That means products
that are within scope of at least one UL standard must be shown to be
compliant to that standard by a Nationally Recognized Testing
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Happy New Year to all
I was asked by one of the engineers that I work with if getting safety
certification for a product in the US is mandatory or not? i.e do
manufacturer of electrical or electronics have to have certification
from NRTL or other 3rd party labs? The products in question are 100%
used in professional environment and are not intended for general
consumer market. If this is a mandatory requirement, where can I see
the requirements written?
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