On Tuesday 31 July 2007 02:19, Ray Henry wrote: > > The move was made without consultation or due process. > > IRC meeting, April, 2006 > "The Sourceforge CVS system has experienced troubles on > 2006-03-30, and after a few days it still wasn't looking bright > for a fast fix. We decided, without a formal vote (but with 4 > members present), to look for alternatives of CVS hosting, most > of the ones we found were either not-free or had serious > limitations, so we decided to move all CVS to cvs.linuxcnc.org
Thankyou for confirming (one) of my original assertions - No formal vote was taken, so due process was NOT followed. What other resolutions will be passed in a similar cavalier manner... > As you well know, the SourceForge admin group was never the software > controlling focus of the project <snip> > It was FredP that suggested we clean out the SourceForge > admin list long years ago and the board made a small effort in that > direction by putting forward a policy of yearly review. However nothing > has been done to clean up the now obsolete admin group. Thanks for making that point. The position of project admin has been rendered obsolete, so it is a worthless title.. Likewise, the list of "registered developers" is also useless. > I guess that would be untrusted me You personally, I would liken to an elder statesman such as ol' Ronald Reagan (before he lost his marbles) - Possibly the last President you guys had who had integrity and respect. Some of the other "board" members are more akin to Clinton, Bush, & Blair.. > 'cause whois reports my name addy and phone when you ask about linuxcnc.org. And for cvs.linuxcnc.org ? traceroute to cvs.linuxcnc.org (206.222.212.221), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 BabNet (192.168.0.1) 0.411 ms 0.289 ms 0.280 ms <snip> 6 ae-0-54.bbr2.London2.Level3.net (4.68.117.98) 29.007 ms ae-0-56.bbr2.London2.Level3.net (4.68.117.162) 31.695 ms 28.705 ms 7 ae-0-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.42) 95.976 ms as-0-0.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.128.106) 97.546 ms ae-0-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.42) 96.675 ms 8 ae-23-79.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.16.69) 116.447 ms ae-13-69.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.16.5) 99.677 ms ae-33-89.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.16.133) 97.675 ms 9 ggr2-p360.n54ny.ip.att.net (192.205.33.93) 100.664 ms 97.650 ms 100.955 ms 10 tbr2.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.123.3.61) 136.088 ms 136.627 ms 137.955 ms 11 tbr2.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.122.10.54) 135.951 ms 137.771 ms 137.954 ms 12 tbr1.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.122.9.149) 135.990 ms 137.662 ms 135.973 ms 13 tbr1.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.10.30) 137.985 ms 133.745 ms 135.968 ms 14 gar1.omhne.ip.att.net (12.122.82.17) 136.917 ms 134.512 ms 133.919 ms 15 12.125.72.54 (12.125.72.54) 145.162 ms 158.388 ms 143.988 ms 16 h146.33.213.151.ip.alltel.net (151.213.33.146) 160.017 ms 156.617 ms 156.966 ms 17 h114.52.170.216.ip.alltel.net (216.170.52.114) 155.967 ms 156.666 ms 156.965 ms 18 * * * <snip> 30 * * * That goes tits up... traceroute to www.linuxcnc.org (208.97.140.179), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets <snip> 4 ge-0-0-0.dcr1.lnd.cw.net (195.10.12.1) 47.009 ms 30.612 ms 37.045 ms 5 ge-5-0-0-dcr2.lnd.cw.net (195.2.9.90) 27.899 ms 30.602 ms 30.204 ms 6 so-0-0-0-dcr2.nyk.cw.net (195.2.10.113) 100.783 ms 106.620 ms 99.956 ms 7 * 66.79.152.145 (66.79.152.145) 109.914 ms 102.896 ms 8 cr2.lax009.inappnet-9.cr2.nym009.internap.net (66.79.146.174) 175.088 ms 174.783 ms 177.698 ms 9 cr1-cr2.lax009.internap.net (66.79.146.205) 171.978 ms 176.534 ms 174.920 ms 10 core1.lax.inappnet-12.cr1.lax009.internap.net (66.79.149.130) 171.960 ms 171.577 ms 172.890 ms 11 border1.po2-bbnet2.ext1a.lax.pnap.net (216.52.255.95) 172.981 ms 177.554 ms 171.929 ms 12 newdream-1.border1.ext1a.lax.pnap.net (216.52.220.78) 174.969 ms 172.518 ms 172.970 ms 13 basic-ugly.dinero.dreamhost.com (208.97.140.179) 175.966 ms 169.553 ms 174.944 ms Totally different path that ends up at a major data centre - Hopefully with the support and backup that such an operation would entail. > Ultimately the board is responsible for access to the repository and no one > who has asked has been refused. In the past, any project admin could hand out CVS write access, but not any more - Just one privilege that has been removed. > We have had none of the down time and lost commit trouble since we have > moved the repository. None of the other projects I'm involved with have been impacted by downtime at SF - Helped in part by a migration to subversion sometime before SF had a hiccup. Had there been a consultation period, you would have had the benefit of a comparison.. Regards, Paul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
