Isolation is commonly used to deal with large common mode differentials. While 
that can blow a 485 tranciever it does not happen alot unless there are vey 
long cable runs or the cable runs between buildings. When running 485 for 
distances of a few hundred feet connecting equipment powered off the same mains 
transformer it's unlikely that enough differential will occur, but a quick 
check with a voltmeter before connecting equipment is always a good idea.

So both comments are correct. In many cases 485 will run just fine without 
isolators, but some applications definitely require isolation. I build 485 
isolators, but they are rarely tested to their limits. Often the isolation is 
more of an insurance policy-it ensures that a single device cannot take down an 
entire network segment.

Javid
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dean Hedin 
  To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 9:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Transceiver


  At 6 bucks a pop, buy 2.

  Seriously,  I worked with 485 at a previous job and I never blew out a non 
isolated converter.
  Of course it might depend on what your doing I guess.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
    Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:42 PM
    Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Transceiver


    Good advice is never to buy non-isolated converters.
    You will replace them regularly if you do.
    This does not seem to be isolated.


    Kirk Wallace wrote: 
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 03:06 -0500, Dean Hedin wrote:
  Interesting if you have the time..

But for six bucks and free shipping...
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6040
    
Obviously, I didn't look hard enough when went looking for these. Thanks
for the link Dean.

  



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