On Tuesday 16 December 2008, John Kasunich wrote: >Tom wrote: >> But... the dependencies make a non-networked install/upgrade very >> difficult. >> >> It might be easier to run a network cable 100ft out to the barn. > >OK, my tact filter is on overload, but so be it. > >(begin-rant) > >Free Software comes from the internet. > >The operating system that Free software runs on comes from the internet. > >The tools to build Free software come from the internet. > >If you want to use Free software, either connect your computer to the >internet, or deal with the extra steps needed to get Free software from >the internet to your disconnected computer. > >(end-rant) > >Regards, > >John Kasunich >
I think that is what I was trying to say also, John. With everything else essentially free, surely a nic ($20) for the machine box, some cable and a cheap switch ($40-50 maybe) downstream of the firewall can be bought. Cable connectors are peanuts and often the crimper to install them right can be borrowed. Info on how to install the connectors is just a google search away. Here I have the verizon supplied dsl modem, which is handled by an old x86 box, anything p2/k6 based with 64 Megs of ram is more than good enough, its running dd-wrt (also free) between 3 nics, one facing the internet, the next hard wired to an 8 port netgear switch (it isn't a real switch though, its actually a hub) and the third nic is an atheros card so I don't have to hardwire the lappy when its in use. This machine is plugged into that 8 port switch, as is the cable to the shop, and several other cables here in the house so I can hook up a box I'm working on in case I am. With dd-wrt in the path to the internet, I don't run a firewall on any of the local boxes, dd-wrt stops all that crap. That old x86 box has been stripped, no drives at all, but has a compact flash adapter ($4) on the end of the primary IDE cable, and it boots dd-wrt from the cf card. dd-wrt is the best kept secret in the firewall business. Anything I want to do, works. If someone wants into it from the internet to play their games, they'll have to know a 20 some character password. Not worth their effort. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Kime's Law for the Reward of Meekness: Turning the other cheek merely ensures two bruised cheeks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users