Steve Blackmore wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jon - tried 120 Ohm across the inputs - it stopped the line receiver
> working?
It didn't stop the RECEIVER, it stopped the TRANSMITTER from working.
I was already suspecting this, and your report the pull-ups helped 
confirms that the
encoder's transmitter has weak or no pull-up to +5V.  The HalScope 
traces also seemed
to show that.
>  The pull ups on the outputs helped marginally but it's much
> better than it was and is quite usable. I'll order some better encoder
> cable and will try and rewire.
>   
Well, that MAY help.  But, there still seems to be something pretty 
badly wrong with
those encoders, the signals out are just BAD.

Jon

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