On 11/11/2011 7:11 AM, Brian May wrote:
> What is meant by "bonded to the ground"?  Does that mean connecting the 
> nuetral leg of the transformer to the ground? If so,  why use the transformer 
> at all when i can just go from a leg to ground?
>    

If the 3 phase service is fed from a delta connected transformer there 
may not be a neutral...      That was very common in older plants.
Now most newer plants use delta-wye transformers so there is a neutral 
connection at the center of the wye and that  point is "bonded" or 
connected to ground at the tranformer.   At that point a real ground is 
also established via ground rods.

You asked how do more 3 phase machines derive 120 VAC from a 3 phase 
input, so I was trying to answer that question.

If you look at the bus duct systems used in most plants in the US, most 
of them only have 3 bus bars - no neutral is available.

A protective/safety ground wire is assumed.     Protective ground 
connections are always made to machines.   Generally the first stop for 
a protective ground in a power or control cabinet is ground bus bar 
mounted in the corner of the steel cabinet.  And the steel cabinet is 
normally connected to the machine frame.

The protective/safety ground is never used to transmit power.   Using it 
for a power return path is a huge no-no.    If you need a neutral, you 
need to run another wire otherwise you are defeating the purpose of the 
protective/safety ground.


>>>why use the transformer at all when i can just go from a leg to ground?

If you think about that statement for a moment; you will realize that you just 
suggested that you connect the power "hot" line to the frame of the machine via 
the load.
A very bad idea.


Dave



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