2012/1/3  <kqt4a...@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote:
>
>> 2012/1/3 gene heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or
>>> network,
>>> and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core phenom on it.  So
>>> ATM, the only universal boot to install method I have is to maintain a
>>> working internal optical drive in every box.
>>
>>
>> I am sure that there is even more universal method, which fits also
>> size-limited situations - You can have one dvd drive for all machines
>> and attach it to particular PC, when necessary. That way You will save
>> on dvd drive cost, space in the case (and case size, if space limit is
>> an issue) and, important for DIY cases, also effort of fitting it
>> nicely in the case.
>>
>>
>>>> I just would like to warn You about using D525 and LPT-based I/O card
>>>> that requires EPP mode - Intel has screwed it up, I had a very bad
>>>> experience with 3 D525 boards, other users can report success, so be
>>>> careful.
>>>
>>>
>>> I followed that discussion rather closely, but for steppers it doesn't
>>> appear that fully working EPP is required.
>>
>>
>> I mean those I/O cards that do hardware step generation and provide
>> more I/O bits than there are LPT pins, like Mesa 7i43 or PicoSystems
>> PPMC.
>>
>> Usual LPT breakout boards that require software step generation do not
>> require EPP, so would work fine.
>>
>
> As usual I am still quite confused
> If the Mesa hardware will do the critical work, step generation, why does it
> matter so much about the motherboard

It does not matter really much.
It just happened that there is limited space for motherboard in the
cases of machines I have built, so that is why I like using mini-ITX
board. And I find D510/525 to be only viable option, because it comes
with dual-core CPU and onboard video for incredible price. It requires
only 3 additional things:
1) RAM (I use 2GB, so that I can live without swap partition);
2) HDD; 2 machines have SSDs, another 2 have pseudo-SSD drives -
compactflash cards in SATA adapter. Both of these things will
appreciate as little writes to the drive as possible, so I have no
swap partition and also disabled access time writes to hdd;
3) PSU;

As calculated by previous posters, the total cost of the PC is very low.
Actually I find D525 to be the most cost-efficient way to build _new_
PC for EMC2.
And it takes up so little space.
In one of machines I managed to use standard ATX case and squeeze in it:
1) D525 board + PSU + CF card in SATA adapter;
2) Mesa 7i43 (to be replaced by 5i23) + 2x 7i39 servo drives
3) DIY optoisolator card
4) 3x Gecko drives
5) 2x 400W AC transformers
6) 2x rectifier bridges with capacitors

If I had a chance to fit a VFD in there, I could say that _all_
controls and electronics of the machine are in the usual ATX PC case.

What I wanted to say with all this - PC mainboard does not matter that
much, but D525 has a lot of advantages, when compared to other
options.

Viesturs

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