On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 03:27:03 PM dave did opine:

> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:25:31 -0600
> 
> Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:
> > dave wrote:
> > > I suspect the only reason to use carbide is that small HSS mills are
> > > really flexible.
> > 
> > Well, it is both a hardness/wear resistance issue and a stiffness
> > issue.  I VERY rarely
> > use small HSS tooling for this reason.  Our shop at work is guys from
> > the "old school"
> > and almost never use carbide on the mill (use lots of indexable
> > carbide on the lathe).
> > I remember watching them make something for me a while ago with a
> > 1/16" HSS end mill, and I swear the tip of the end mill was tilted 30
> > degrees from straight.
> > I suggested carbide but they didn't have any, so they had FITS
> > getting that slot to
> > the right dimension.
> > 
> > > Even though my mill has serious backlash I can  climb mill with
> > > small mills, eg. <= .25". I have had occasional trouble with a .5
> > > rougher but I had really buried it. I can climb mill with .5
> > > carbide roughers on steel if I take a light cuts like 50 to 100
> > > thou.
> > 
> > I used to make climb cuts with great trepidation on my manual
> > Bridgeport, as it
> > has .030" blacklash on X and .050"+ on Y.  Now, I make practically
> > all cuts in the climb direction except when going back and forth
> > cleaning up the side of some piece.
> > 
> > Jon
> 
> GOOD GRIEF!!  and I thought 0.003 on X and Y was bad.
> 
You stole my line, Dave. :) When I get above 4 thou, its adjust things time 
again.

> If I'm lucky I can go hold the piece so I can go all the way around
> climb-cutting. I seem to be doing more where I rough with a .500 and
> clean up with 0.25" carbide. Of course the doc is limited.
> 
> Dave

Cheers, Gene
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