It is funny what people think should be a standard feature because it is what their machine needs. What you really need is an automatic tool changer. I can jog,ride a bike,have a cup of coffee,or do most anything during my tool changes.(I am sorry I could not resist.) Terry ________________________________ From: gene heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 09:10:26 PM gene heskett did opine: > On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:56:07 AM Michael Haberler did opine: > > Am 18.03.2012 um 13:36 schrieb Tony Zampini: > > > > ... > > > > > On a more general note, being able to "touch off after a tool > > > change" seems to me to be a necessary function for any and every > > > milling operation. Why doesn't EMC2 have this feature built-in? Or, > > > to put it another way, how are users of EMC2 currently determining > > > the new z offset after changing tools, assuming they don't use a > > > probing feature? Just curious. > > See below. > > > please see the example in > > http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=tree;f=configs/sim/remap/m > > an > > ual-toolchange-with-tool-length-switch;h=8c716f10d20a9f0722de83dda3fb > > 393 087d94270;hb=10d8caf753ab0269f882d83b59a6c76e2e3ae28d > > > > this can easily be adapted to other forms of touchoff > > > > -m > > I am not aware to a method that doesn't at some point make use of the > G38.2 function, which means there MUST be a probe of the tool. In my > case, doing pcb work using eagle & pcb2gcode, I wrote some routines > that assume the probing pin is connected to the pcb itself. In my > case, the use of the routines requires that calls to the probe function > be manually edited into the pcb-gcode output to command a move to a > location that clears the work space for the tool change, and after each > tool change call the subroutine to establish the offset. > > As I tend to run with rather leasurely accelerations, my probes are done > relatively slowly so the tool doesn't overshoot and mark up the > workpiece, so each probe adds about a minute to the production time. > > I also added a bit of a fudge factor so the 'etching' depth can be > controlled without having to rerun pcb-gcode and then reinstall this > stuff by editing in everything all over again. > > At my web page in the sig, add /Genes-os9-stf/eagle to the path and you > can download the 3 files I use. > > tedautoz.ngc (tOPeTCHdRILL.ngc) > bedautoz.ngc (bOTTOMeTCHdRILL.ngc) > tholefinder.ngc > PCB-Pallat.JPG > > tholefnder.ngc is written to use a short piece of tubing let into the > pallet that holds the pcb for etching, and the offsets it develops as it > runs set the left-right offsets in G55 and G56 modes so the top etch, > top drill, matches up with the bottom etch and bottom drill files. PCB- > Pallat.JPG shows fuzzily, what my pallet for that first board looks > like. The grayer area in the center has been relieved another 25 thou > so any machining burrs left from the etching and drilling of the first > side do not prop the board up and mess up the bottom side by etching > too deeply. > > tholefinder.ngc will of course need editing so that what it discovers > will work for the pcb carrying pallet you'll need to make. I made mine > from some 1/2" micarta I bought a couple slabs of from Highland > Hardware in Hotlanta, intending to make zero clearance inserts for my > BT-3000 Ryobi table saw, something that saw is very badly in need of > since the plastic casting they sell comes out of the box sitting 50 > thou too low all over, and over .1" low at the top center of the blade. > I made 2 zero clearance inserts, and haven't damaged the first one > yet. Piece of crap factory plastic I won't every buy again. The > micarta works great. > > Cheers, Gene I forgot to mention that the pix of the pcb pallet doesn't show the machined fin on the bottom that fits the T nut slots of my mills table in order to maintain x alignment when its removed & remounted on the mills table. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: <http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene> You can't go home again, unless you set $HOME. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users