On Thursday 27 June 2013 16:15:48 Charles Buckley did opine:

> And some further patents:
> 
> https://www.google.com/?tbm=pts#tbm=pts&tbm=pts&q=ininventor:%22Kornelis
> +Frits+Feenstra%22&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=5b260c5b98cf1da2&biw=1527&bih=84
> 0

Busy fellow, that Feenstra was.  I looked at the first one with a dozen 
hits, but none of it passes the "not obvious" test IMNSHO.  But it would of 
course keep a law firm in business for 5 years getting it set aside.
 
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 27 June 2013 14:59:37 Charles Buckley did opine:
> > > Well, on January 28th, 2014 the next generation of stereolithography
> > > patents expire. That will increase the resolution a ridiculous
> > > amount.
> > 
> > Interesting, until some troll crawls out of the swamp.  Are there any
> > other gotchas that will fall through to, to bite the unwary?
> > 
> > > Linuxcnc is a much more adaptable baseline for any of these
> > > machines. I would expect to see a lot of UI changes and movement
> > > with it.
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Bari <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I agree with you. When the GGG (Glorified Glue Gun) fad started a
> > > > few years ago many of the maker folk looked at Linuxcnc since it
> > > > had been used to control multi-axis machines for over a decade.
> > > > Some of them felt that it was too complicated and expensive to
> > > > control their GGG made mostly of threaded rods, nuts and low
> > > > resolution PLA printed parts. They then decided to just use an
> > > > Arduino and make some custom IO stepper boards to control the
> > > > 3-axis Cartesian stage and glue gun/extrude and write all the
> > > > software from scratch. The printers still needed a PC for the
> > > > user interface, but I guess you weren't supposed to notice that.
> > > > 
> > > > Later they decided to move from Arduino to all-in-one 120MHhz ARM
> > > > cortex M3/4 boards and write all new libraries for the new
> > > > architecture. The new all-in-one boards sell for $120-200 and
> > > > combine the micro with stepper drivers, GPIO and mosfet outputs.
> > > > A PC is still required for the UI but they can run stand alone
> > > > with the G-code stored on an SD-Card.
> > > > 
> > > > Now TI has released a $45 BeagleBone Black with a 1GHz ARM Cortex
> > > > A8 that can host the machine control and suddenly there is
> > > > interest in Linuxcnc again. The UI can be directly off the GPU or
> > > > over he network. The Beaglebone Black still needs some expansion
> > > > IO to drive the steppers and extruder but the BOM is <$30.
> > > > 
> > > > The GGG's only use one or two nozzles to deposit material so the
> > > > process is very slow and they have difficulty with producing
> > > > features under 200um. It's become popular since the original
> > > > patents expired a few years ago and you can build your own
> > > > printer for only a few hundred dollars.
> > > > 
> > > > The reasons I have heard from the "maker guys" for not aspiring to
> > > > other additive manufacturing technologies have been the complexity
> > > > and the high costs involved for DIY. There are a few DIY projects
> > > > that use SLA with DLP (B9) or laser (SLAMPS) but they have chosen
> > > > slow methods mostly due to the problems with "It's the patents
> > > > stupid!" or just ignorance of the technology and SLS, Inkjet and
> > > > micronozzle DIY is practically non-existent.
> > > > 
> > > > On 06/27/2013 10:29 AM, Dave wrote:
> > > > > I have been randomly watching the 3D printer efforts from the
> > > > > sidelines and for the most part I have not been impressed at
> > > > > all.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think you are right ...  they are way, way behind.  To many,
> > > > > it seems that reinventing the wheel is how they learn but at
> > > > > the expense of making any meaningful
> > > > > progress.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   >>Loading an SD card works because it
> > > > > 
> > > > > is pretty bullet-proof and easy to manage as is just pressing a
> > > > > button.<<
> > > > > 
> > > > > I guess that is fine if you want to duplicate a design that
> > > > > someone else
> > > > 
> > > > has already worked out on a "standard" printer.
> > > > 
> > > > > However I would hope that some of the "maker guys" would have
> > > > > more
> > > > 
> > > > ambitious aspirations! :-)
> > > > 
> > > > > Dave Cole

Cheers, Gene
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