On Tuesday 03 September 2013 05:14:30 andy pugh did opine:

> On 3 September 2013 08:24, Steve Blackmore <st...@pilotltd.net> wrote:
> > In practice it worked well - if it's working - leave it alone, the odd
> > splash of oil is part of the experience.
> 
> I have tried re-greasing to see if it helps.
> The problem is that it is more than the odd splash, it will be nothing
> at all for ages then it reaches some limit and gloops out all over the
> place.
> Admittedly this wouldn't be a huge problem normally, especially
> running coolant, it's a nuisance when working with wood as I am at the
> moment.
> 
> I don't think there is room inside the bolt circle for any sort of lip
> seal though, and I am rather wary of Gene's idea of an O-ring, I can
> see it managing to pull out a bight and tie itself in a knot.

I think you envision the o-ring riding the OD of the spindle, I wasn't.

I was imagining a plate, possible bolted to the existing retainer plate by 
drilling and tapping in between the bolt holes it now has, with a groove 
for the o-ring in the top face of the seal carrier plate, possibly using 
the seals OD as the ID wall of the groove, such that you were compressing 
the o-ring against the bottom face of the bearing retainer.  No sliding 
contact involved. If because the OD of the seal puts it on the retainers 
bolt circle, then make the seal plate enough bigger so that the o-ring 
could be located outside the bolt circle. But thats assuming cap screws 
buried in the bearing retainer, which may not be the case. That just serves 
to make the seal holders machining more complex and maybe thicker if you 
have to machine another bolt head clearance groove too. The seal would be a 
normal lip type seal sized to fit the spindles OD. A 6 pack of 3mm bolts 
should hold it till the universe runs down.  And would be easily removed 
should access to the bearing be needed many years from now. 

Total loss is a balancing act, because of the potential for carrying 
contaminants in as you add what should be clean oil always exists.

Throwing oil on the wood is not nice at all.  You can't put a finish on it 
as every drop is an 'eye' the finish runs away from.  Sometimes you can 
wash it clean enough with acetone, but if the oil has any silicon content, 
the piece is campfire wood. Putting 5 to 10 buck a bd ft cherry or maple in 
the fire isn't good use of the resource. :)

Cheers, Gene
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