On Sat, 24 May 2014, a k wrote: > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 16:24:04 -0700 > From: a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > Hi > i found that that scale is different. > in emc2 2.2 theory was > encoder pulses - in my case 8192 -- and that is per quadracha -- so > x4--=32768 > than ball screw about 5 pitch per 1" > so times 5 and that get to around 163840 for scale. > with 163840 i getting error. > i increase that number to 1063840 and i can jog in 0.001 increment and > consequently instead 0.001 machine moves 0.007 > my question is - encoder with 8192 pulse is too old and i need servomotor > where encoder output 10 times more pulse or get gear reducer head with > ration 1to 50 etc? > > i want to be sure that my ac servo motor (with 8192 pulse) tuneable at all > with emc2 -2.5 ? > >
I think its unlikely that input scale (encoder scale) changed and much more likely that the PID numbers are different so will require different tuning > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, <tcninj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I can guarantee that the scaling is different between m5i20 and hostmot . >> I replace a computer a while back and updated from 2.3 to 2.5. and made no >> changes to the machine and tried to use my existing pid numbers with no >> luck. After retuning the numbers were not even close. >> >> Terry >> >> On May 23, 2014, at 5:12 PM, "Peter C. Wallace" <p...@mesanet.com> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: >>> >>>> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:45:06 -0700 >>>> From: a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> >>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>>> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 >>>> >>>> i did run emc2.2 live cd and put ini file back >>>> it work for 2 min and start give join following error0. >>>> what is difference between joint following error 0 from joint following >>>> error 1 and joint following error 2 >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> aram >>> >>> Most likely >>> >>> joint folowing error 0 is an error on X >>> joint folowing error 1 is an error on Y >>> joint folowing error 2 is an error on Z >>> >>> I am not at all sure that the PID scaling or even polarity are identical >> on >>> m5i20 and Hostmot2. >>> >>> Also not sure if the encoder direction is the same. So first I would >> verify >>> that the encoder direction and scaling are correct and if not fix them >> first. >>> Then I would widen the ferror limits and check if the drives run away >> when >>> enabled. If so the PWM scale needs to be reversed. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:37 AM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi >>>>> interesting part is that yesterday when i start computer it give error >>>>> that i post here. cnc window did not want to open and error was there. >>>>> today same computer - everything same - start - open cnc widow with no >>>>> problem. >>>>> i even turn motor to see if encoder will move - yes and all encoders >> are >>>>> connected right - figures in axis do change. >>>>> only when i power machine on i getting ---joint 2 following error ---- >>>>> looks like tuning problem but i put all ini file back. >>>>> and those ---joint 2 following error ---- activated instantly after >> power >>>>> on machine --F2-- >>>>> >>>>> why situation change overnight? by them self? >>>>> and ---joint 2 following error ---- not just tuning problem but >> something >>>>> else. >>>>> How i can do that --their EEPROM >>>>> data updated to the current---? >>>>> >>>>> i am not complaining. thank you for all help. maybe it consumer reflex >> - >>>>> when thing is working it switch happiness On/Off. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Peter C. Wallace <p...@mesanet.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 04:16:59 -0700 >>>>>>> From: a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>>>>>> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >>>>>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hi >>>>>>> i think that the situation where i am now - controller that does not >>>>>> work- >>>>>>> is good answer to question why i avoid to update to new releases of >>>>>> emc2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> why data for 5i20 was change during evaluation from 2.25 to 2.5? -it >> was >>>>>>> working on emc2 2.25 just keep it same. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so my board 5i20 is useless now - garbage? >>>>>>> i have 2 of them! >>>>>> >>>>>> The 5I20 is unchanged and you can go back to 2.2.5 easily if you >> saved you >>>>>> 2.2.5 installation >>>>>> >>>>>> The 5I20s that you have are old enough that they may need to have >> their >>>>>> EEPROM >>>>>> data updated to the current to be able to rum Hostmot2 firmware, but >> this >>>>>> is >>>>>> not clear because At one point you showed an error that indicated a >> card >>>>>> access problem (FPGA reset issue) but then you said that you were >> able to >>>>>> launch linuxCNC >>>>>> >>>>>> What is the curret situation with running linuxcnc 2.5? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Q >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what should i do now? >>>>>>>> there was reason that i like emc2.2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Peter C. Wallace <p...@mesanet.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 May 2014, a k wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 11:32:08 -0700 >>>>>>>>>> From: a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>>>>>>>>> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>>>>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >>>>>>>>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> i think i know >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> who is PCW? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 22 May 2014 19:06, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> [11380.125103] hm2_5i20.0: firmware: requesting >>>>>> hm2/5i20/SVST8_4.BIT >>>>>>>>>>>>> [11380.127460] hm2_5i20.0: FPGA did not reset: /INIT = 1, DONE >> = 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so you seem to have a config updated for the new driver, >> which >>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> a good start. >>>>>>>>>>>> I think we might need PCW to explain the problem above. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not sure (especialliy if linuxCNC does load with drivers disabled) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that error by itself may indicate very old EEPROM data on the 5I20 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> atp >>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't fix it, you don't own it. >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto >>>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - >> For >>>>>> FREE >>>>>>>>>>>> Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. >>>>>>>>>>>> Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing >>>>>> platform >>>>>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>>>>> Simple to use. 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