strange changes between emc2 2.2.5 and 2.5 in area tune up of motors. in 2.2.5 i run on p=220 i=.65 d=0.03 now in 2.5 i pushed p =10000 i=1100 d=110 it is big difference i can jog motor. it is noisy but it move machine. i am trying to find max for p and drop 10% and bring d up to to reduce noise. i did chenge ff1 =0.03% ff2=px0.005%
is this sounds normal result? On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:53 PM, a k <[email protected]> wrote: > I can guarantee that the scaling is different between m5i20 and hostmot . > I replace a computer a while back and updated from 2.3 to 2.5. and made no > changes to the machine and tried to use my existing pid numbers with no > luck. After retuning the numbers were not even close. > > Terry > > > just interesting about PID > were numbers with 2.5 are bigger than with 2.3? > > with 2.5 i can get P almost twice bigger in compare with using 2.2.5 > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I can guarantee that the scaling is different between m5i20 and hostmot . >> I replace a computer a while back and updated from 2.3 to 2.5. and made no >> changes to the machine and tried to use my existing pid numbers with no >> luck. After retuning the numbers were not even close. >> >> Terry >> >> On May 23, 2014, at 5:12 PM, "Peter C. Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: >> > >> >> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:45:06 -0700 >> >> From: a k <[email protected]> >> >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> [email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 >> >> >> >> i did run emc2.2 live cd and put ini file back >> >> it work for 2 min and start give join following error0. >> >> what is difference between joint following error 0 from joint following >> >> error 1 and joint following error 2 >> >> >> >> thanks >> >> aram >> > >> > Most likely >> > >> > joint folowing error 0 is an error on X >> > joint folowing error 1 is an error on Y >> > joint folowing error 2 is an error on Z >> > >> > I am not at all sure that the PID scaling or even polarity are >> identical on >> > m5i20 and Hostmot2. >> > >> > Also not sure if the encoder direction is the same. So first I would >> verify >> > that the encoder direction and scaling are correct and if not fix them >> first. >> > Then I would widen the ferror limits and check if the drives run away >> when >> > enabled. If so the PWM scale needs to be reversed. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:37 AM, a k <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> hi >> >>> interesting part is that yesterday when i start computer it give >> error >> >>> that i post here. cnc window did not want to open and error was there. >> >>> today same computer - everything same - start - open cnc widow with no >> >>> problem. >> >>> i even turn motor to see if encoder will move - yes and all encoders >> are >> >>> connected right - figures in axis do change. >> >>> only when i power machine on i getting ---joint 2 following error ---- >> >>> looks like tuning problem but i put all ini file back. >> >>> and those ---joint 2 following error ---- activated instantly after >> power >> >>> on machine --F2-- >> >>> >> >>> why situation change overnight? by them self? >> >>> and ---joint 2 following error ---- not just tuning problem but >> something >> >>> else. >> >>> How i can do that --their EEPROM >> >>> data updated to the current---? >> >>> >> >>> i am not complaining. thank you for all help. maybe it consumer >> reflex - >> >>> when thing is working it switch happiness On/Off. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Peter C. Wallace <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 04:16:59 -0700 >> >>>>> From: a k <[email protected]> >> >>>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >>>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> >>>> [email protected]> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> hi >> >>>>> i think that the situation where i am now - controller that does not >> >>>> work- >> >>>>> is good answer to question why i avoid to update to new releases of >> >>>> emc2. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> why data for 5i20 was change during evaluation from 2.25 to 2.5? >> -it was >> >>>>> working on emc2 2.25 just keep it same. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> so my board 5i20 is useless now - garbage? >> >>>>> i have 2 of them! >> >>>> >> >>>> The 5I20 is unchanged and you can go back to 2.2.5 easily if you >> saved you >> >>>> 2.2.5 installation >> >>>> >> >>>> The 5I20s that you have are old enough that they may need to have >> their >> >>>> EEPROM >> >>>> data updated to the current to be able to rum Hostmot2 firmware, but >> this >> >>>> is >> >>>> not clear because At one point you showed an error that indicated a >> card >> >>>> access problem (FPGA reset issue) but then you said that you were >> able to >> >>>> launch linuxCNC >> >>>> >> >>>> What is the curret situation with running linuxcnc 2.5? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Q >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM, a k <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> what should i do now? >> >>>>>> there was reason that i like emc2.2 >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Peter C. 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