1. Use differential signaling (make sure the encoder --> drive and drive --> 7I33 are set up for differential mode) Hi how can i do that ? which file ? any instruction?
thank you On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Peter C. Wallace <p...@mesanet.com> wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2014, a k wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:18:01 -0700 > > From: a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > > > i did tune 2 motors which are from servodynamic and 3rd motor made by > SEM. > > sem motor some how pick a noise and move by them self > > i can hear noise and motor stay in same place and after that level of > noise > > go down and motor turns in + direction > > i can see that turns cw and ccw for some time and after slowly turn cw by > > them self > > > > it is not totally new thing with this motor > > what cause that? > > thanks > > aram > > > Creeping like this is usually caused by noise (often from the drive) > coupled into the encoder signals. There are several things that can be > done to > eliminate this problem: > > > 1. Use differential signaling (make sure the encoder --> drive and drive > --> 7I33 are set up for differential mode) > > 2. Keep encoder wiring away from motor wiring > > 3. Shield encoder wires with shield terminated at 7I33 end only > > 4. Make sure that the filter bits of the HostMot2 encoder counters are set > true > > 5. If you still have issues, the filter time constant of the encoder > counters > can be increased, This is somewhat awkward with linuxcnc 2.5 but trivial > with > linuxcnc master > > > > > > On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:14 PM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> strange changes between emc2 2.2.5 and 2.5 in area tune up of motors. > >> in 2.2.5 i run on p=220 i=.65 d=0.03 > >> now in 2.5 i pushed p =10000 i=1100 d=110 > >> it is big difference > >> i can jog motor. it is noisy but it move machine. > >> i am trying to find max for p and drop 10% and bring d up to to reduce > >> noise. > >> i did chenge ff1 =0.03% ff2=px0.005% > >> > >> is this sounds normal result? > >> > >> > >> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:53 PM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I can guarantee that the scaling is different between m5i20 and > hostmot . > >>> I replace a computer a while back and updated from 2.3 to 2.5. and > made no > >>> changes to the machine and tried to use my existing pid numbers with no > >>> luck. After retuning the numbers were not even close. > >>> > >>> Terry > >>> > >>> > >>> just interesting about PID > >>> were numbers with 2.5 are bigger than with 2.3? > >>> > >>> with 2.5 i can get P almost twice bigger in compare with using 2.2.5 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, <tcninj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I can guarantee that the scaling is different between m5i20 and > hostmot > >>>> . I replace a computer a while back and updated from 2.3 to 2.5. and > made > >>>> no changes to the machine and tried to use my existing pid numbers > with no > >>>> luck. After retuning the numbers were not even close. > >>>> > >>>> Terry > >>>> > >>>> On May 23, 2014, at 5:12 PM, "Peter C. Wallace" <p...@mesanet.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:45:06 -0700 > >>>>>> From: a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >>>>>> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>>>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < > >>>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> i did run emc2.2 live cd and put ini file back > >>>>>> it work for 2 min and start give join following error0. > >>>>>> what is difference between joint following error 0 from joint > >>>> following > >>>>>> error 1 and joint following error 2 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> thanks > >>>>>> aram > >>>>> > >>>>> Most likely > >>>>> > >>>>> joint folowing error 0 is an error on X > >>>>> joint folowing error 1 is an error on Y > >>>>> joint folowing error 2 is an error on Z > >>>>> > >>>>> I am not at all sure that the PID scaling or even polarity are > >>>> identical on > >>>>> m5i20 and Hostmot2. > >>>>> > >>>>> Also not sure if the encoder direction is the same. So first I would > >>>> verify > >>>>> that the encoder direction and scaling are correct and if not fix > them > >>>> first. > >>>>> Then I would widen the ferror limits and check if the drives run away > >>>> when > >>>>> enabled. If so the PWM scale needs to be reversed. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:37 AM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> hi > >>>>>>> interesting part is that yesterday when i start computer it give > >>>> error > >>>>>>> that i post here. cnc window did not want to open and error was > >>>> there. > >>>>>>> today same computer - everything same - start - open cnc widow with > >>>> no > >>>>>>> problem. > >>>>>>> i even turn motor to see if encoder will move - yes and all > encoders > >>>> are > >>>>>>> connected right - figures in axis do change. > >>>>>>> only when i power machine on i getting ---joint 2 following error > >>>> ---- > >>>>>>> looks like tuning problem but i put all ini file back. > >>>>>>> and those ---joint 2 following error ---- activated instantly > after > >>>> power > >>>>>>> on machine --F2-- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> why situation change overnight? by them self? > >>>>>>> and ---joint 2 following error ---- not just tuning problem but > >>>> something > >>>>>>> else. > >>>>>>> How i can do that --their EEPROM > >>>>>>> data updated to the current---? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i am not complaining. thank you for all help. maybe it consumer > >>>> reflex - > >>>>>>> when thing is working it switch happiness On/Off. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Peter C. Wallace <p...@mesanet.com > > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 04:16:59 -0700 > >>>>>>>>> From: a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >>>>>>>>> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>>>>>>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < > >>>>>>>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> hi > >>>>>>>>> i think that the situation where i am now - controller that does > >>>> not > >>>>>>>> work- > >>>>>>>>> is good answer to question why i avoid to update to new releases > of > >>>>>>>> emc2. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> why data for 5i20 was change during evaluation from 2.25 to 2.5? > >>>> -it was > >>>>>>>>> working on emc2 2.25 just keep it same. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> so my board 5i20 is useless now - garbage? > >>>>>>>>> i have 2 of them! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The 5I20 is unchanged and you can go back to 2.2.5 easily if you > >>>> saved you > >>>>>>>> 2.2.5 installation > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The 5I20s that you have are old enough that they may need to have > >>>> their > >>>>>>>> EEPROM > >>>>>>>> data updated to the current to be able to rum Hostmot2 firmware, > >>>> but this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> not clear because At one point you showed an error that indicated > a > >>>> card > >>>>>>>> access problem (FPGA reset issue) but then you said that you were > >>>> able to > >>>>>>>> launch linuxCNC > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> What is the curret situation with running linuxcnc 2.5? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Q > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> what should i do now? > >>>>>>>>>> there was reason that i like emc2.2 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Peter C. Wallace < > >>>> p...@mesanet.com > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 May 2014, a k wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 11:32:08 -0700 > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >>>>>>>>>>>> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < > >>>>>>>>>>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> i think i know > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> who is PCW? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, andy pugh < > >>>> bodge...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22 May 2014 19:06, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [11380.125103] hm2_5i20.0: firmware: requesting > >>>>>>>> hm2/5i20/SVST8_4.BIT > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [11380.127460] hm2_5i20.0: FPGA did not reset: /INIT = 1, > >>>> DONE = 1 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so you seem to have a config updated for the new driver, > >>>> which > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a good start. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we might need PCW to explain the problem above. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure (especialliy if linuxCNC does load with drivers > >>>> disabled) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> that error by itself may indicate very old EEPROM data on the > >>>> 5I20 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> atp > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't fix it, you don't own it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto > >>>>>>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing > - > >>>> For > >>>>>>>> FREE > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS > >>>> combos. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing > >>>>>>>> platform > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> available > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simple to use. 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