hi
i did install stand alone classic ladder. I found very good video on
youtube about it.
i look for hardware that recommended for stand alone ladder and i think
that they are only USB based. I remember that USB it is not a real time and
can stop work etc.
am i right here?
at the same time i have extra 5i20 and 2 x 7i37 boards, so will it be
better to get another  desktop PC and use LCNC integrated version?

Also, i think that in stand alone classic ladder possible to use up to
100 rungs
and in LCNC integrated version only 25 rugs.
am i right here?
will it be something new thing in classic ladders in LCNC 2.6?


thanks
aram







On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 2:39 AM, alex chiosso <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Aram.
> Go to this link <https://sites.google.com/site/classicladder/> for a
> complete information on Classic Ladder stand alone version (the original
> one).
> The site is the official supported by the French author Marc Le Douarain.
> I suggest to you to use Modbus RS485 or TCP/IP (that is a built in
> function) if you want to interface Classic Ladder with the field I/O.
> The last vesion on the site is not exactly the same included in LCNC of
> course.
> The LCNC integrated version has all the connectivity to HAL that the
> original version doesn't have.
> I tried the stand alone version and it is working fine as a softplc .
> As already clarified previously Classic Ladder has some limitations (i.e.
> floating point variables, non retentive variables value, Modbus
> connectivity number of instances limitated ...) but in any case it is a
> plus into LCNC and it is usable in stand alone mode if needed.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, a k <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > about
> > The classic ladder software in linuxcnc has a standalone version as well
> > that is offered by the original author.
> >
> > where is it ? can not see it in downloads
> >
> > also what hardware recommended in this case?
> >
> > aram
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 5:47 PM, a k <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > hi
> > >
> > > this will start  classicladders ----add in hal
> > >
> > > This line loads the real time module:
> > > loadrt classicladder_rt
> > > This line adds the Classic Ladder function to the servo thread:
> > > addf classicladder.0.refresh servo-thread
> > >
> > > is this same classicladders?
> > > https://sites.google.com/site/classicladder/home/downloads
> > >
> > >
> > > aram
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Dave Cole <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>       Check out:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ClassicLadder_Ver_7.124
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I think this is still true:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>        >>6.6. %QF and %IF variables
> > >>
> > >> Classicladder now can connect to float pins. Classicladder does not
> yet
> > >> internally handle floats, so it cuts the floating point off leaving an
> > >> integer. Allows connections to float pins with out using a conversion
> > >> component. The default number is 10 each.
> > >> <<
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 7/28/2014 2:42 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote:
> > >> > Aram
> > >> > You should be able to put in a formula in any input box. Something
> > like
> > >> > "if V < value then ...."
> > >> > I suggest that you install a stand alone classic ladder editor to
> test
> > >> > your script with. It is easier this way to start off with. You can
> > have
> > >> > a look at the help to assist you.
> > >> > The classic ladder software in linuxcnc has a standalone version as
> > well
> > >> > that is offered by the original author.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On 2014-07-28 07:34, a k wrote:
> > >> >> Hi
> > >> >> Dave
> > >> >> interesting does Classic Ladder has ability to read float number -
> > like
> > >> >> value of electrical current -- that can fluctuate ( read output
> some
> > >> some
> > >> >> sensor etc) , do calculation and make output also float number -
> like
> > >> any
> > >> >> value between 0  +5 V DC ?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> thank you
> > >> >> aram
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Dave Cole <
> [email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Aram,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I don't understand what you want to do but that welder has a very
> > >> >>> limited duty cycle.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> If you weld continuously it will overload and shutdown in less
> than
> > 15
> > >> >>> minutes.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I use PLCs all of the time and know the RS 500 controllers and
> > >> >>> software.   The AB controllers are much easier to use if you have
> to
> > >> >>> write more than about 25 rungs.  Siemens S7-1200 controllers are
> > even
> > >> >>> easier to use.  If you need something less than about 25 rungs
> > Classic
> > >> >>> Ladder works fine.   Obviously Classic Ladder has a huge price
> > >> >>> advantage.  :-)
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> You can use the 7i37 digital I/O with Classic Ladder if you have
> any
> > >> I/O
> > >> >>> points left.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Dave
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On 7/27/2014 4:28 PM, a k wrote:
> > >> >>>> hi
> > >> >>>> i am working on 2nd part of my project which is integration of
> > >> >>>> metal depositor what will be welter like this
> > >> >>>>
> > http://www.harborfreight.com/90-amp-flux-wire-welder-68887-8494.html
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> i will need some plc that can control cnc machine with 0 --5V DC
> > >> >>>> and control speed of welder.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Current (A amperage) of welding process -main parameter.
> > >> >>>> can i use input power parameter -- 110 V AC 20 A - to estimate
> > >> current of
> > >> >>>> real time welding process?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>      I know some rs 500 logic -
> > >> >>>> is using of EMC2 Classicladder to integrate welder and cnc mill
> > good
> > >> >>> idea?
> > >> >>>> i want to keep existing cnc mill as a separate unit .
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> if i will use EMC2 Classicladder only as a integrator of welder
> to
> > >> >>> existing
> > >> >>>> cnc mill what board/s do i need - hardware ?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> i have 2nd set mesa 5i20/7i33/7i37-- use them or there is
> something
> > >> >>> better?
> > >> >>>> thank you
> > >> >>>> aram
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
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