Hi Aram. As I suggest to you , IMHO the best way to interface Classic Ladder stand alone with the field IO is Modbus. You can find a lot of industrial grade hardware that will work with ( Advantech <http://www.advantechdirect.com/eMarketingPrograms/L021113P1%20Sensor/ADAM4000_page.htm> Modbus Serial Line IO Modules , Advantech <http://www.advantech.com/products/GF-5TZ5/ADAM-4572/mod_1e01192d-95a1-42a4-b199-79343134f4ca.aspx> Modbus TCP/IP Gateway). I prefer to use Modbus TCP/IP because of ethernet cables easy to have and because of speed for refreshing the IO image. You can use also the parport with a breadboard but I never tried it . I don't think there is a limitation for the number of ladder rungs you can edit. Maybe is a configuration matter but onestly I don't know. At the moment I'm not at my office so I can't check it for you . Sorry.
Alex On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:30 AM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> wrote: > hi > i did install stand alone classic ladder. I found very good video on > youtube about it. > i look for hardware that recommended for stand alone ladder and i think > that they are only USB based. I remember that USB it is not a real time and > can stop work etc. > am i right here? > at the same time i have extra 5i20 and 2 x 7i37 boards, so will it be > better to get another desktop PC and use LCNC integrated version? > > Also, i think that in stand alone classic ladder possible to use up to > 100 rungs > and in LCNC integrated version only 25 rugs. > am i right here? > will it be something new thing in classic ladders in LCNC 2.6? > > > thanks > aram > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 2:39 AM, alex chiosso <achio...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Aram. > > Go to this link <https://sites.google.com/site/classicladder/> for a > > complete information on Classic Ladder stand alone version (the original > > one). > > The site is the official supported by the French author Marc Le Douarain. > > I suggest to you to use Modbus RS485 or TCP/IP (that is a built in > > function) if you want to interface Classic Ladder with the field I/O. > > The last vesion on the site is not exactly the same included in LCNC of > > course. > > The LCNC integrated version has all the connectivity to HAL that the > > original version doesn't have. > > I tried the stand alone version and it is working fine as a softplc . > > As already clarified previously Classic Ladder has some limitations (i.e. > > floating point variables, non retentive variables value, Modbus > > connectivity number of instances limitated ...) but in any case it is a > > plus into LCNC and it is usable in stand alone mode if needed. > > > > Alex > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > about > > > The classic ladder software in linuxcnc has a standalone version as > well > > > that is offered by the original author. > > > > > > where is it ? can not see it in downloads > > > > > > also what hardware recommended in this case? > > > > > > aram > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 5:47 PM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > hi > > > > > > > > this will start classicladders ----add in hal > > > > > > > > This line loads the real time module: > > > > loadrt classicladder_rt > > > > This line adds the Classic Ladder function to the servo thread: > > > > addf classicladder.0.refresh servo-thread > > > > > > > > is this same classicladders? > > > > https://sites.google.com/site/classicladder/home/downloads > > > > > > > > > > > > aram > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Check out: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ClassicLadder_Ver_7.124 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I think this is still true: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>6.6. %QF and %IF variables > > > >> > > > >> Classicladder now can connect to float pins. Classicladder does not > > yet > > > >> internally handle floats, so it cuts the floating point off leaving > an > > > >> integer. Allows connections to float pins with out using a > conversion > > > >> component. The default number is 10 each. > > > >> << > > > >> > > > >> Dave > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On 7/28/2014 2:42 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > > > >> > Aram > > > >> > You should be able to put in a formula in any input box. Something > > > like > > > >> > "if V < value then ...." > > > >> > I suggest that you install a stand alone classic ladder editor to > > test > > > >> > your script with. It is easier this way to start off with. You can > > > have > > > >> > a look at the help to assist you. > > > >> > The classic ladder software in linuxcnc has a standalone version > as > > > well > > > >> > that is offered by the original author. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > On 2014-07-28 07:34, a k wrote: > > > >> >> Hi > > > >> >> Dave > > > >> >> interesting does Classic Ladder has ability to read float number > - > > > like > > > >> >> value of electrical current -- that can fluctuate ( read output > > some > > > >> some > > > >> >> sensor etc) , do calculation and make output also float number - > > like > > > >> any > > > >> >> value between 0 +5 V DC ? > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> thank you > > > >> >> aram > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Dave Cole < > > linuxcncro...@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > >> >>> Aram, > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> I don't understand what you want to do but that welder has a > very > > > >> >>> limited duty cycle. > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> If you weld continuously it will overload and shutdown in less > > than > > > 15 > > > >> >>> minutes. > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> I use PLCs all of the time and know the RS 500 controllers and > > > >> >>> software. The AB controllers are much easier to use if you > have > > to > > > >> >>> write more than about 25 rungs. Siemens S7-1200 controllers are > > > even > > > >> >>> easier to use. If you need something less than about 25 rungs > > > Classic > > > >> >>> Ladder works fine. Obviously Classic Ladder has a huge price > > > >> >>> advantage. :-) > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> You can use the 7i37 digital I/O with Classic Ladder if you have > > any > > > >> I/O > > > >> >>> points left. > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> Dave > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> On 7/27/2014 4:28 PM, a k wrote: > > > >> >>>> hi > > > >> >>>> i am working on 2nd part of my project which is integration of > > > >> >>>> metal depositor what will be welter like this > > > >> >>>> > > > http://www.harborfreight.com/90-amp-flux-wire-welder-68887-8494.html > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> i will need some plc that can control cnc machine with 0 --5V > DC > > > >> >>>> and control speed of welder. > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> Current (A amperage) of welding process -main parameter. > > > >> >>>> can i use input power parameter -- 110 V AC 20 A - to estimate > > > >> current of > > > >> >>>> real time welding process? > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> I know some rs 500 logic - > > > >> >>>> is using of EMC2 Classicladder to integrate welder and cnc mill > > > good > > > >> >>> idea? > > > >> >>>> i want to keep existing cnc mill as a separate unit . > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> if i will use EMC2 Classicladder only as a integrator of welder > > to > > > >> >>> existing > > > >> >>>> cnc mill what board/s do i need - hardware ? > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> i have 2nd set mesa 5i20/7i33/7i37-- use them or there is > > something > > > >> >>> better? > > > >> >>>> thank you > > > >> >>>> aram > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >> >>>> Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? > > Index > > > >> and > > > >> >>>> search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black > Duck > > > >> >>>> Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest > > code > > > >> >>>> search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! 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