I think you are a little confused with soft limits/home switches. Soft 
limits are in relation to your home switches (machine coordinates).  
They do not move with touch off.  They work wonderfully.  once I home 
ours - no matter how hard I try I cannot get the machine to hit the 
limit switches :).  (I have tried)

I have tapped many many holes now and am amazed every time I do.  I have 
not broken a tap yet (knock on wood).

our spindle has a 5hp motor and a lot of rotating mass.  I have to be 
careful as the over shoot is quite large.

latest tapping..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBQ7RSuRAls

sam


On 09/29/2014 10:21 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 29 September 2014 22:42:26 Jon Elson did opine
> And Gene did reply:
>> On 09/29/2014 07:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> I am doing it on a lathe, and I have seen that occur. From what I can
>>> deduce, its running into the - limit on z, stopping the carriage, but
>>> keeping track of where its stopped and picks Z back up in the back
>>> out move as its internal z position matches where it stopped.
>> The simplest way to check if this is the cause is to
>> manually jog the Z axis as far as it
>> needs to go for the tapping sequence.  if you cannot jog it
>> that far in -Z, then you
>> have hit the Z minus soft limit.  As Gene mentions,
>> apparently on at least some
>> versions, the spindle synched motions don't CHECK for travel
>> limits before performing
>> the move.  It could check for soft limits for the programmed
>> Z move, but can't know
>> how far past that Z depth it will go while the spindle
>> decelerates.
>>
>> And, if you are not using homing with home switches, Dave,
>> you might want to
>> set this up and enter the actual limits of the machine.
>>
>> Jon
> That won't be a very informative test in many cases because the machine
> may have been "touched off", a fancy way of saying that the limit is not
> now whats in the .ini file, its in the original machine co-ordinate
> (G53?), and ANAICT, that assures that regardless of what its touched off
> to, the actual limit has not been moved physically unless the steppers
> have slipped.
>
> Also, a G33.1 move is not interruptible, I have hammered the axis e-stop
> button to no avail, and I have shut down the motor power, but it remains
> in a locked state with the carriage following the chucks hand driven
> rotation until it has been manually backed out and is back to the position
> it would end up in if not wrapped in a "peck" loop, which I do 100% of the
> time.  So I generally loosen the chuck holding the tap and let it spin
> with the workpiece while doing a back out move until it unlocks, then
> retrieve the tap.  At least I won't break another tap unless I am clumsy.
>
> FWIW, 0-80 taps are fragile even then.
>
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