Chris,

Part of your reasoning is why I thought the higher resolution scales would
be an answer because I would never in a million years worry about dither at
.00004"...  But, I do think I need to see how well I can get it going
before that because it seems as though I should be able to get the mill
working well enough for my needs.

In John Thornton's tuning tutorial, he talks about having 0 output to the
drive and not having any creep.  I do have some slight creep, but then it
stops, so I could look at that (and then add it back).  But, I think the
point is that I need to work w/ the system, look at the  lash and see where
I'm at.

Also, PCW mentioned adding a smidgen (0.010) of pid-bias, which is very
similar to what you're suggesting.  I'll play around w/ both and how the
system responds.

Thanks for the suggestions, bottom line is I need to see what I have and
will get out to the garage in a bit...

Thanks,
Mark


On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:38:54PM -0400, John Kasunich wrote:
>
> Have you tried deadband equal to one or two counts of the scale?

I think adding deadband of one count will make it dither across two
counts instead of one.  The problem is when pid's output is zero,
the position creeps.  After a while there's an error of one count,
pid corrects it, and then pid output goes back to zero and it starts
again.  Adding deadband just makes it not correct until you get more
error.

Dithering across one count is very very normal.

I think you can slow or stop the dither simply by turning the offset
knob on the amp.

For velocity mode I recommend I=0 in your tuning.

You are unlikely to permanently stop the dither because analog
adjustments aren't very permanent, but you can make it slow enough
it won't bother you.
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