Here are some new Nema 48's from Baldor.
http://www.electricmotorwholesale.com/BALDOR-MOTORS-3PH-DP.html

Here is Siemens standard motor catalog - if you look at page 2/10 you 
can get an idea of the IEC/Metric frame sizes and relative power outputs.
http://www.motology.co.th/download/motors/%282%29%20Standard%20Motor%20catalog.pdf

On Ebay do a search for "48 frame motor 3 phase".     I got almost 100 
hits from that search.  Maybe 1/3 of them were worthwhile items.
I'm not sure how much HP you are looking for.

Your other option is to pickup a used brush DC motor and match that up 
with a DC drive.   A lot of them go pretty cheap because most people are 
trying to get away from brush maintenance.
But DC motors can have 100% torque at very low speeds which is usually 
not possible with a VFD driven AC motor.
Most low HP DC motors tend to be skinny.  :-)

Dave


On 6/14/2015 12:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 14 June 2015 10:54:57 Dave Cole wrote:
>> Gene,
>>
>> Try looking for a Nema 48 AC motor.   They are almost an inch smaller
>> in diameter.
> That makes perfect sense.  But no search hits until I drop it to Nema 42.
>
>> Also, there are some metric frame motors that are common in Europe
>> that are also smaller in diameter than a Nema 56.
>>
>> http://kurz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Baldor-NEMA-Frame-Chart.pdf
>>
>> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/nema-electrical-motor-frame-dimensio
>> ns-d_1504.html
>>
>> Dave
>>
> I think one of the things that is confusing me is when you or I  think 3
> phase, we are thinking of a hard armature that is in fact a p.m.  So
> while it may have a phase lag due to loading, it is in fact synchronous.
> Such a motor can be driven at stump pulling speeds with full torque
> available just by dropping the drive frequency, and they will do it
> without excessive heating if the invertor is current regulated.  Fading
> only when the rpms doesn't generate a cooling air flow.
>
> But for the average guy peddling what he found on ebay, he has no clue
> how to tell us that THIS motor is in fact an induction motor, and the
> output rpms MUST lag the frequency because that is what generates the
> currents in the armature that make it run.
>
> So how do we discern the induction motor,totally unsuitable for vfd drive
> except near is design rpms, from the synchronous motor at home on a vfd
> drive?
>
> Example:
> Doing a search for a 3 phase motor, the complete first 50 hits are all
> induction, none claim to turn as synchronous speeds. All "slip" some as
> much as 75 rpm from 1800. 1800 or 3600 on 60hz would indicate one we
> might be able to use.
>
>> On 6/14/2015 10:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Sunday 14 June 2015 05:06:22 andy pugh wrote:
>>>> On 14 June 2015 at 02:38, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> It does look good, but where can I get an adaptor to mount that
>>>>> 56C frame on the GO704?  Or is that my first project, making one?
>>>>> ;-)
>>>> What is the existing motor mount?
>>> About an inch smaller OD than a 56C.
>>>
>>>> I adapted my Mini-Mill to a standard 3-phase motor:
>>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Dk3wsS9o7XJ-N2kfUnESDtMTjNZET
>>>> Ymy PJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
>>>>
>>>>> At $116 + ship, looks good also. Needs a modbus circuit from lcnc.
>>>>> Who has that hardware?
>>>> Just because you can use Modbus it doesn't mean that you must use
>>>> Modbus. Those VFDs all accept analogue voltage, potentiometer and
>>>> current-loop too.
>>> That greatly simplifies that, 5i25 pwm out driving a SpinX1 which I
>>> have.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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