On 12.12.15 21:32, Gene Heskett wrote:
> But I suspect that 90 volts (cap input filter) is still way too much for 
> those coils over any time period in excess of 2 or 3 minutes.
> 
> So, how much more do I need to reduce the coil voltage in order to run 
> them at a reasonable temperature on DC?
> 
> I have some other toroid trannies that might be more suited for this as I 
> suspect the operation from DC can probably be reliably done with 30 
> volts w/o baking the coils.
> 
> Does anyone else have similar experience who can toss a few words my way 
> on this?

They might hold on 30v, but I don't see them pulling in on it. If the
relay is switched well after power-up, then a resistor feed of DC to a
middle-sized electrolytic briefly provides full pull-in voltage via
whatever switches the coil current, and the resistor is scaled for
coolness, according to taste. (Well, finger-burn, actually.)

Now, to "unsimplicate", if that is the builder's bent, there are gadgets
like: http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/drv120.pdf , located by a quick
google for "pwm solenoid relay driver". 

There are doubtless other ways to cook this cat, variously attractive,
depending on ingredients to hand.

Erik

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