On 02/08/2016 11:14 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 08 February 2016 11:23:58 andy pugh wrote:
>
>> On 8 February 2016 at 16:12, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote:
>>> One question remains:  Does the thread even have to have a spiral
>>> component, eg does it need to actually advance into the hole as it
>>> turns?  Common sense says it should, in order to achieve a gas tight
>>> seal against a shoulder at the bottom of the bore.  OTOH, with a
>>> shell casing supplying the breach seal as modern bolt rifles do, if
>>> the headspace when closed is tight enough to prevent a casing head
>>> separation, the need for the spiraling thread is removed.

The Krupp I restored has no lead to the "thread" of the breech block, it 
is a cartridge gun so we had to maintain headspace when refurbishing it.




>> Screwed breeches of the Welin or de Bange type are only used with
>> bagged charge guns. They both use a de Bange obturator for sealing
>> whereas a brass-case gun used the case for obturation.
>> This might mean they need no lead, but the pictures seem to indicate
>> one.

Krupp sometimes used the Welin style interrupted thread with the Elswick 
cone for a quicker action. It is easy to fire 15 rounds per minute.



> That was the impression I came away with.  But explain the De Bange or
> Welin seal please.
>
Search on Wikipedia for "Rifled Breech Loader" for a look at early 
breech loader history and types.

Ed.


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