On Monday 12 September 2016 14:44:33 Chris Albertson wrote:

> I think the RC filter idea would work OK.  Gear teach are after all a
> low frequency signal, so a filter made with a cap size for a corner
> freq of (say) 100KHz will keep RF out of the line.
>
I was thinking more in terms of a rail to rail bypass.

> That said the "correct" way to do this is with a pair of
> driver/receiver chips.   If you use RS422 (that is a differential
> signal) you can likely go over a 1/4 mile of trusted pair wire.
>
> As for wire why not use Cat 6 or better for a machine shop cat-6
> shielded.   It is terminated in RJ45 and it's dirt cheap.  And has
> enough pairs (4) for your use.
>
> Also I was reading LinuxCNC docs, it said a spindle encoder needs to
> be quadrature.  You need two sensors for that phase A and B plus a
> third for the index.    Cat 6 has four pairs so you can use the 4th
> for power to the sensors.

Thats been the plan from the getgo, and its required for rigid tapping.
Only way to fly IMO.

> As I said, the simple RC filter like you suggested can work but the
> "classic" method for use in a shop filled with high power machines is
> to use a differential single as it is immune to common mode noise,
> then use twisted pair in a sealed that is grounded on ONE end only,

I can switch to shielded cable once I get outside the spindle housing, so 
if its needed, I will.

> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> 
wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > I see by the spec sheet that the allegro 667 gear sensor can sink up
> > to 25 mills.
> >
> > But with 3 such sensors on the end of a long cable back to the
> > breakout board, probably 7 foot by the time I get it routed, I am
> > concerned with the potential for crosstalk noise in spite of putting
> > a bypass capacitor on the encoder itself.
> >
> > This noise would be reduced by a lesser amount of current. So, for
> > those of you using this device, what value is the resistor are you
> > using for a pullup at the breakout board?
> >
> > And if using a piece of idc ribbon cable, it seems to make sense to
> > put a grounded wire between each of the A|Z|B conductors, making
> > that a 7 conductor cable rather than a 5. I have around 90 feet of
> > 26 wire ribbon I can split off what I need from.
> >
> > Good idea? Or off the wall & probably will be plagued by noise if I
> > shoot for a 10 milliamp pullup with a 470 ohm pullup, or even 5
> > mills with a 1k pullup.
> >
> > Time to assemble that motor driver box I believe.

Thanks Chris.
'
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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