On Tue, 11 Oct 2016, Erik Friesen wrote:

> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:24:36 -0400
> From: Erik Friesen <e...@aercon.net>
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>     <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> To: Greg Bentzinger <skullwo...@yahoo.com>,
>     "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Haas thoughts
> 
> The pinout coming from the brushless amps is
>
> 610-1 +A CHANNEL
> 610-2 ANALOG GROUND
> 610-3 +B CHANNEL
> 610-4 ANALOG GROUND
> 610-5 ENABLE
> 610-6 LOGIC GROUND
> 610-7 FAULT
> 610-8 LOGIC GROUND
> 610-9 NOT USED
> 610-10 SHIELD/ANALOG GROUND

That looks very similar to the drive signals for AMCs analog input AC servo 
drives: 2 phase analog sine wave drive (phase C is just the difference between 
A and B so synthesized in the drive)


>
> Any ideas what signal levels and types those will be?  The encoders feed
> through the mocon pcb, so somehow these amps have to figure power and
> location for the bldc phase, and I don't see how that is accomplished.
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Erik Friesen <e...@aercon.net> wrote:
>
>> My haas is a 1996 and it shows.  Attempting 0.1" engraving at 40ipm G187
>> E.001 doesn't work, and I think it is a control limitation.  See two paths
>> in this pic?  aercon.net/Public/Engraving.jpg  The top is attempted at 40
>> IPM, the bottom at 15.  To me it looks like a trajectory planning
>> limitation.
>>
>> The only person to attempt a haas vf conversion never finished it.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Greg Bentzinger <skullwo...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Perspective on anything read on cnccookbook.com
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that site exists to promote his software and his articles
>>> are written by someone who does not have long term (if any) experience with
>>> "Big Iron" in an industrial business environment.
>>>
>>> His opinions are biased towards the hobby/semi-pro market as that is the
>>> best he knows. Some info offers keen insights, while others are plain
>>> wrong. His software can be helpful if you are willing to make a windows PC
>>> with internet connection available to employees on the floor. ( Network
>>> connection is required so software can phone home to validate your
>>> subscription license.)
>>>
>>> Personally I use the other (competitor) option which has a Buy once cry
>>> once license option and is cross platform so it will run on my Android
>>> phone as well as PC.
>>>
>>> I know there are a very large group who loves the HAAS control, I
>>> however, after having to try and keep 8 lathes and 3 mills running and knew
>>> my Haas repair crew better than any other vendor, so I'm definitely not one
>>> of those fan boys. I like toggle switches and rotary knobs I can see status
>>> from 10m or yrds away. Plus tapping a membrane key to increment up or down
>>> a feed rate or spindle speed seems just wrong on a full sized machine.
>>> (Desktop mini router - I can see running just a kyb and E-Stop.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure if Mesa's SSerial card for pendants could do that. There is
>>> definitely money to be made if some enterprising person or company were to
>>> make a plug in adapter harness for Haas and FADAL control consoles.
>>>
>>> Greg Bentzinger out yonder in Colorado
>>>
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