http://electronicsam.com/images/matsuura/oscope.jpg

Part of what worked for us was we found a gear that had a profile close to the 
test gear from the alero docs.

http://electronicsam.com/images/matsuura/sensors.jpg

Been working great



On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:03:10 -0500
 Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 January 2017 11:36:18 Jon Elson wrote:
> 
> > On 01/10/2017 10:45 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 10 January 2017 23:02:28 Jon Elson wrote:
> > >> On 01/10/2017 08:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >>> But if I hook up the halscope, the apparent quadrature error is
> > >>> worthless due to the 1KHz servo-loop timing limiting the
> > >>> bandwidth.
> > >>
> > >> Well, that's why we use hardware encoder counters, as
> > >> sampling the quadrature at 1 KHz just isn't fast enough.
> > >>
> > >> Jon
> > >
> > > Plz elucidate Jon. Something has got to be better than this. See the
> > > pix I posted with the last reply to Peter & the list.  The top,
> > > white trace in the halscope screen is the quadrature noise, easily
> > > 10x the timing wibbles I see on the hitachi's screen.
> >
> > If you are looking at the quadrature signals at a 1 KHz
> > sampling rate, then unless the encoder is moving quite
> > slowly, the sampling will be too coarse.  That screen shot
> > is kind of small (you can take just a single window as the
> > screenshot, by the way) but it looks like the duty cycle of
> > the encoders is not 50%.  That may well be aliasing, as the
> > quadrature signals seem to be moving much too close to 1000
> > Hz.  You'd get much better results below 100 Hz.  Or, with
> > Mesa hardware, you can sample these with the base thread.
> >
> > I can't comment on the velocity output from the Mesa, as I
> > don't know their gear (or driver).  But, the scale is 2/div,
> > meaning the scaled velocity output is jumping around 2 user
> > units up and down at a KHz rate.  Clearly, not good.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> I have found some quadrature error, so I pulled the ats667 mount off and 
> carved about 5 thou off the divider between the A & B units, jammed a 
> brass shim into the side of the B pocket to push it toward theA unit, 
> carved about 5 thou off the side of the divider between them, washed the 
> oil off several times, glued the A unit in place with a brass shim 
> pushing it snugly toward the B, jammed a piece of rubber beside the B 
> unit to push it toward the A unit, perhaps 10 thou change in the 
> separation, and I'm headed back out to test. Breaking the B unit loose, 
> and filing about 3 or 4 thou off that side of the B  unit so the rubber 
> shim would shove it that much closer to together raised the minmax about 
> 10 points on the min, and lowered the max about 25, which have be an 
> indicator as to the mechanical directions needed.
> 
> Oh, that ground on the vfd control cable I thought might be loose, was.
> 
> the diff in duty cycle, aka time up vs time down? Its about 60/40. If it 
> was optical, I'd put a pot in series with the leds and adjust for 50% :) 
> But I haven't a clue how to do that with these ats667's.  Darn it.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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