I saw a similar idea for a damper years ago, except a square section copper 
ring was used in leu of the balls.

N. Christopher Perry

> On Jan 24, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Greetings all;
> 
> I see some "Nema 24" motors at quite reasonable prices showing up on 
> fleabay, in fairly high torque ratings, so I bought one 10 days back, 
> since I need a stronger one, with perhaps a damper on it on my x axis. I 
> bought the 8 wire model so I can drive it in parallel where I ought to 
> be able to get 3k rpms out of it. The mount bolt pattern appears to be a 
> duplicated of nema 23, but the body is just a wee bit fatter, the shaft 
> is double ended 8mm, and the whole thing looks like it will fit behind 
> the new apron with about 5mm of clearance between the back shaft end and 
> the face of the bed.  So its perhaps 5mm longer than the double ended 
> nema 23 rated at 235 oz/in in there now.
> 
> So I need to locate a 20 tooth, 8m bore pulley before I make the swap.
> 
> Now, I don't believe this is going to help with the resonance stalls I am 
> getting at about 30 ipm, so I'm thinking of building a viscous damper to 
> fit on the rear of this puppy.  But unlike the ones on my hf micromill, 
> which are long steel spools carrying a 2+ inch stack of heavy fender 
> washers with elastomer sheets between the washers, which are true shock 
> absorbers as the resonance is killed by the frictional losses as the 
> washers walk on the talcum covered elastomer, but I don't have room for 
> a 2+" stack of fender washers in this spot. 5/8" axially at best.
> 
> I do have room for a larger diameter assembly on the back, so I am 
> thinking in terms of a 1/2" thick by maybe 4" in diameter alu wheel, 
> drilling in from the side at a low angle to put a couple set screws in 
> to clamp it to the motor shaft, and knock down 1 or 2 of my 00 buck 12 
> gauge rounds, measure them, and bore as many pockets in the rim as I can 
> fit leaving about 20 to 30 thou for the balls to move within the pockets 
> filled with grease, and sealed over. A thin gasket to contain the 
> grease, and a 1/8" thick cap ring with a pair of 0-80 cap screws into 
> the fillets between the pockets should make a good torsional vibration 
> damper.  Or plow a groove for a 1/16" o-ring on the outside of the cap, 
> and the inside radius of the cap ring on one side of it. Useing the 
> o-rings would tend to make the grease self distributing, and the small 
> clearance might even aid in the damping if I intentionally plow a 
> shallow 3rd groove between the grooves for the sealing o-rings would 
> further enhance the viscous losses of the grease moving back and forth 
> between pockets thru that narrow passage.
> 
> What do the vibration engineers in this crowd think of this idea?
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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