On Thursday 21 December 2017 12:39:16 Chris Albertson wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 2:12 AM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 December 2017 04:18:46 Chris Albertson wrote:
> > > To make this really work for rotary tables you need a very fine
> > > pitch. I have seen these 3D printed in plastic but they slip and
> > > don't handle much torque because the outer ring deforms
> > > One idea I had was to press fit the plastic ring gear into a short
> > > section of steel pipe.
> > >
> > > Put you can buy these drives already made for about $250.   That
> > > is really not abad price for arc-second level precision and near
> > > zero backlash.
> >
> > Where?
>
> I wrote that before I figured out how to see the video.  On eBay you
> can fin harmonic drives.  They do the something(roughly 1:100
> reduction) but actually better accuracy.
> Here are a few:  ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=harmonic+drive...
> <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=harmonic+drive&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&;
>_sacat=0&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=50&_udhi=275&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sa
>bdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=90278&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_
>salic=1&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50>

All but 1 in that 3 page list do not give a list of dimensions, 2 - 4 
others only list as needing an 8mm drive end input. Many are obviously 
incomplete even, I certainly cannot come to any conclusion as to whether 
or not I could use one of them in on my small mill with its limited Z 
overhead.

One outfit even goes so far as to show us 3 warehouse racks full of 
boxes, as if we could blow the pix up and see what the box says on it. 

And the $170 version seems to be guts only, without the internal rack. 
Maybe I'm to be considered dumb because I don't know them from long 
familiarity with using them, but so is assuming everyone has a pile of 
makers catalogues reaching back 30 years so we can look it up by the 
part number.

Sheesh.

I will say thank you Lawrence, specifically for the code you carved a 
lathe encoder wheel with all those years ago. I've rearranged it some, 
and adjusted the sizes and slot counts, and made a few disks from it 
myself.  The one on TLM is about as small as it can be and still be 
functional. I lost another 1/2" of OD trying to fit it into a G0704, and 
just replaced its a/b signals with a 1000 line omron on the rear of the 
motor. The index I still get from the disk on the spindle.  Thank you 
for the loan of that code from the wiki.

> > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Lawrence Glaister
> > > <[email protected]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > very cool Gene.... had some troubles playing the video, but I
> > > > seem to have the gist of it. It does seem like a very
> > > > interesting design for rotary tables.... just have to figure out
> > > > how to re-purpose some rear end ring gears and pinions....
> > > > hmmm... was thinking of regearing the jeep anyway!. Lawrence
> > > > Glaister VE7IT
> >
> > Now theres a recipe for some bigger machinery,
>
> Maybe a better source of parts would be a Toyota Prius viable ratio
> transmission.  It is already set up with planet gears that match the
> ring. The parts come off without even needing tools.
> See the ring and planet gear on the left and center of this video.  
> Junk yard price is about $300.  Also notice the two electric motors. 
> They could like be repurposed.

Link?

> > --
>
> Chris Albertson
> Redondo Beach, California
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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