On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, at 10:30 AM, David Berndt wrote:
> I'd like this to be reasonably low effort. My biggest concern is single  
> phase input. Control/response requirements are about as low as it gets.
> 
> I'm looking to output about 1000lbf in a linear direction via a  
> crank/slider or ballscrew with peak speed of about 1m/s. So that's a real  
> 5hp of energy. 

Mixed units are making my head hurt....

1000lbf = 4448 newtons I think?
At 1m/s, that is 4448 watts.  1 HP = 746 watts, so 4454 watts = 5.96HP.

A ballscrew would have to spin pretty fast to hit 1m/s.  Obviously it depends 
on the pitch, but a plain vanilla 5mm pitch screw would have to go 12000 RPM 
(well above critical speed unless very short).  Even a 20mm pitch screw would 
need 3000 RPM.

You don't mention the stroke length.  Are you moving a few inches in a fraction 
of a second, or several meters over several seconds?  

4.5kW or 6HP isn't going to be small or cheap no matter what you do...



> Duty cycle will be low, and external active cooling can be  
> provided if required. So things like steppers are out, I've never seen a  
> stepper that outputs nearly that much, and I don't particular want to  
> create a 4kw 80v dc power supply...
> 
> re: Control requirements, I really only need to start running at a  
> particular speed and be able to return the system to a somewhat close stop  
> position, which can be as simple/bad as a vfd with a switch and timed jog.  
> Any extra control over the system that I can get would add capabilities  
> though.
> 
> The goal here is to see if there are any industrial drives out there that  
> might periodically pop up on ebay which are higher KW and single phase  
> capable.I see units like the Parker Gemini GV/GV6-U12/H20 which claim  
> single phase at 3.5kw and 5.9kw.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:24:32 -0400, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> 
> > How much time/work do you want to put into this motor/drive setup?
> > There are no really cheap large servo motor solutions unless you stumble  
> > into a deal on Ebay or a surplus marketplace.
> > Larger servos generally mean 3 phase inputs.   So that becomes an  
> > immediate issue.
> >
> > If you can live with a VFD, your life will be much simpler to simply get  
> > a single phase input VFD and a suitable motor.
> > You can find 3 phase gearbox equipped motors on Ebay that can get you  
> > 500 rpm max.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/11/2018 2:01 AM, David Berndt wrote:
> >> Wondering if anyone had any preference/experience/advise to share with  
> >> single phase capable larger servos. I'm looking at an application for a  
> >> 3 to 5hp motor with a vfd, but if I could just get a servo to fill in  
> >> that'd be nice. Gear reduction will be required, but something with  
> >> more torque, needing less reduction will make things easier.Say ~500rpm  
> >> as a goal maximum output.
> >>
> >> I see things like Fanuc red cap servos (ai series? pulsecoder encoder)  
> >> 2.5kw kicking around ebay. Driving something like that would seem to be  
> >> the challenge?
> >>
> >> Thoughts? Suggestions? Previous experience?
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
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