I saw the fusion360 option.

And I know solidworks can do that too.

I would definitely want to mathematically calculate it.  Seems a waste to
introduce error on the first step lol. Especially if I don't have to.

Might be a good idea to 3d print the first one and then make a big proper
one from high tensile steel and needle roller bearings.

Once I get to it I will post it here and on the forum.

Have a cnc lathe to retrofit first haha.

Now that this mill is almost done.


Regards

Andrew

On Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:23 PM Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> There are two good tutorials on designing the gears.  Both depend more on
> geometric construction than math.   They first generate some points then
> fit a spine.  I've read this is not-exact but the error can be as small as
> you like.  Just make more points and the spline gets better.
>
> Going into the design you need to know what reduction you want and the size
> of the pins.  For the pin size just use whatever drill rod you have.
>
> The second video uses Fusion360. The first one assumes any generic CAD
> system. These are not nearly as hard to design as involute gears
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/guvatctnjww
> https://youtu.be/jQ6LQBFZXmU
>
> Robots are a good reason to own a CNC milling machine.   I want one of
> these
> https://youtu.be/G6fMV1UPzkg?t=76
> Seriously, they are just 12 motors, 12 gear reductions and a big LiPo
> battery.  The motors come from quad-copter drones.
>
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:34 PM andrew beck <andrewbeck0...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Chris.
> >
> > That's awesome.  I was just looking at that video lol.
> >
> > Do you know how he is designing these.  I know that the lobes are
> > calculated by a  equation.
> >
> > It would be good to see the equations that go into this and any plug-ins
> he
> > uses etc.
> >
> > I'm quite keen to build one of these.  Like you for robotics or just
> > anything.   And of course my 4th axis on the VMC
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On Sun, May 17, 2020, 4:39 PM Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Paul Gould is doing good work with these reduction drives.   This video
> > > shows how a triple reduction system works and just how simple it is.
> > >
> > > Note that all the points of contact with the plastic lobes are ball
> bearing
> > > units.    This unit is about as complex as they get and it is still
> easy to
> > > see how it works.   But do notice there must be three dozen bearings
> total.
> > > At the end of the video where he spins the drive with the drill you can
> see
> > > the bearings all around the outside of the gear rotate.    This is not
> > > required.  Those can be made with pins or you can use a machined ring
> > > gear.
> > >
> > > https://youtu.be/ewoUsVMFWfU
> > >
> > > My use case for these is robotics but there is such a large overlap
> between
> > > robots and machine tools.   I am building both a power steering system
> for
> > > a robot self-drive car and a z-axis for a Harbor Freight mini mill.   I
> use
> > > the same motor and drive electronics for both of these.  The only
> > > difference is the mill uses a 16mm ball screw and the car uses spur
> gears
> > > But the same NEMA23 motor.   Paul is working on walking robots but
> there is
> > > no reason not to use one of his knee joints as an A-axis in a mill.  In
> > > both cases you put a 2000 PPR encoder on it can use closed loop
> control.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 7:53 PM andrew beck <andrewbeck0...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > So do they use some needle roller bearings that run on the lobes or
> > > > something?
> > > >
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