I agree.   Rather a nothing video.  Took about 30 seconds to view it skipping 
past the "these are screws in my hand" parts.  And clicking on the x in the 
advertising that kept popping up.

I too would like to build a robot arm to replace the Radio Shack Armatron I 
bought while on holidays in the late 80's.   
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armatron 
My wife sat outside the trailer sun tanning.  I played with it inside where it 
was cool.  My kids played with it when they were younger.  Now it's back in the 
box ready for grandchildren.

But a larger scale one with harmonic drive joints would be fun.
John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com]
> Sent: February-22-21 11:15 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic drive, rubber flex ring
> 
> The Youtuber is just making stuff to show on Youtube.  If he had a specific
> use-case, then he would have to choose the system.  Cycloidic drive can be
> back driven and have a lower reduction.  If you need that, you need that.
> Harmonics can't be back driven and can have 100:1 reduction. The two are
> not really interchangeable.
> 
> My interest in this is robotics.  THis is the entire reason for using
> LinuxCNC andmachine tools is to make parts for robotic related experiments.
>     I've not given up on belt reduction.   A three-stage reduction with 4:1
> pulleys can fo a 4x4x4 = 64:1 reduction with very little friction.   It
> competes will with harmonic and cycloidic reduction.  If designing
> something you have to explore all these options as there is never a "best",
> only a "best in this case".
> 
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:43 AM Ralph Stirling <
> ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Interesting video, and also interesting that the guy has
> > abandoned the harmonic drive in favor of cycloidal
> > drive.
> >
> > -- Ralph
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Chris Albertson [albertson.ch...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 10:17 AM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: [Emc-users] Harmonic drive, rubber flex ring
> >
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> >
> >
> > To add one more idea to the long-running conversation of how to build a
> > harmonic reduction drive.  Here is a working prototype that looks like the
> > flex-cup solution is solved.   This could work for many years.     But the
> > video shows only the idea and a prototype.  I would not make this one but
> > rather use the idea.  What is needed is better bearing to support the load.
> >
> > What I would do is make a sturdy metal shaft that connects the output disk,
> > rotor, input disk and motor, maybe using tapered roller bearings and then
> > the motor turns the shaft perhaps through a flexible urethane coupler.
> > Ideally there would be an optical encoder disk buried inside someplace too.
> >
> > The prototype in the video has nothing but gravity or the user's thumb to
> > hold it together but it does solve the harder problem of the flex-cup that
> > can last for many years.
> >
> >
> >
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