https://youtu.be/VK4zgFTD2SA

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:58 PM andrew beck <andrewbeck0...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hopefully I'll get into a big cycloidal drive for my Cnc mill soon all out
> of steel.
> I was thinking of making it 300mm dia maybe.
> I think most 5axis Cnc Mills use cycloidal drives if they don't just have
> big direct drive servos.
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2021, 09:28 John Dammeyer, <jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote:
>
> > I agree.   Rather a nothing video.  Took about 30 seconds to view it
> > skipping past the "these are screws in my hand" parts.  And clicking on
> the
> > x in the advertising that kept popping up.
> >
> > I too would like to build a robot arm to replace the Radio Shack Armatron
> > I bought while on holidays in the late 80's.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armatron
> > My wife sat outside the trailer sun tanning.  I played with it inside
> > where it was cool.  My kids played with it when they were younger.  Now
> > it's back in the box ready for grandchildren.
> >
> > But a larger scale one with harmonic drive joints would be fun.
> > John
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: February-22-21 11:15 AM
> > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic drive, rubber flex ring
> > >
> > > The Youtuber is just making stuff to show on Youtube.  If he had a
> > specific
> > > use-case, then he would have to choose the system.  Cycloidic drive can
> > be
> > > back driven and have a lower reduction.  If you need that, you need
> that.
> > > Harmonics can't be back driven and can have 100:1 reduction. The two
> are
> > > not really interchangeable.
> > >
> > > My interest in this is robotics.  THis is the entire reason for using
> > > LinuxCNC andmachine tools is to make parts for robotic related
> > experiments.
> > >     I've not given up on belt reduction.   A three-stage reduction with
> > 4:1
> > > pulleys can fo a 4x4x4 = 64:1 reduction with very little friction.   It
> > > competes will with harmonic and cycloidic reduction.  If designing
> > > something you have to explore all these options as there is never a
> > "best",
> > > only a "best in this case".
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:43 AM Ralph Stirling <
> > > ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Interesting video, and also interesting that the guy has
> > > > abandoned the harmonic drive in favor of cycloidal
> > > > drive.
> > > >
> > > > -- Ralph
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: Chris Albertson [albertson.ch...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 10:17 AM
> > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > Subject: [Emc-users] Harmonic drive, rubber flex ring
> > > >
> > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside the Walla Walla
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To add one more idea to the long-running conversation of how to
> build a
> > > > harmonic reduction drive.  Here is a working prototype that looks
> like
> > the
> > > > flex-cup solution is solved.   This could work for many years.
>  But
> > the
> > > > video shows only the idea and a prototype.  I would not make this one
> > but
> > > > rather use the idea.  What is needed is better bearing to support the
> > load.
> > > >
> > > > What I would do is make a sturdy metal shaft that connects the output
> > disk,
> > > > rotor, input disk and motor, maybe using tapered roller bearings and
> > then
> > > > the motor turns the shaft perhaps through a flexible urethane
> coupler.
> > > > Ideally there would be an optical encoder disk buried inside
> someplace
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > The prototype in the video has nothing but gravity or the user's
> thumb
> > to
> > > > hold it together but it does solve the harder problem of the flex-cup
> > that
> > > > can last for many years.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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