On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 6:24 AM Les Newell <les.new...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > And that's the key point Les. There was no prior discussion. As was > > pointed out in another post, this CoC was created and implemented with > > no input from the group at large. > > > Um, I don't know if you noticed but we are having that discussion right > now. The CoC is not set in stone. It's just text that can be easily > edited. Jeff introduced it. At that point there should have been some > rational discussion and any corrections made as needed. Instead there > was a completely unwarranted explosion of vitriol and paranoia. Jeff the > dictator is impinging on our FREEDOM! The CoC boils down to 'be nice and > treat people with respect'. Really, you are upset because you don't want > to be nice and others to be respectful to you? Even if you are, what's > wrong with just asking for a change to the text instead of shouting > about THE ESTABLISHMENT trying to CONTROL you. This are just a group of > like minded individuals, not some oppressive government. > > Could Jeff have worded his announcement better? In hindsight yes but > remember the only way anything gets done around here is if someone > volunteers to do it. How many of the people here screaming about their > rights have actually bothered to contribute to maintenance of the source > code and the website? If you don't like something how about fixing it, > rather than getting upset? > > Les > Les, How about we look at the original announcement. Thanks to the archives, it's easy to find. Here it is in it's entirety" " The LinuxCNC community including this mailing list now has a written code of conduct. Unless it's your idea of fun to harass other people, this is a big non-event for you. You can read the code of conduct here:https://www.linuxcnc.org/CODE_OF_CONDUCT/ Jeff" Notice the wording in the first sentence. "...this mailing list now has a written code of conduct." Sounds like a fait accompli to me. There's no wiggle room for discussion there. It's in place and will supposedly be enforced. Note the sarcasm in the second sentence. Not the type of post that someone is suggesting we use this CoC or maybe modify it through discussion. Have we heard back from Jeff after the initial post? Have any of the suggestions to modify the thing been implemented or acknowledged? It is a form of control, whether you admit to it or not. There has been no justification or reason why this thing has to be implemented in the first place. This list has been around for a pretty long time and somehow we've managed to get along with pretty much everyone on the list and we've all learned from each other. I go back to my original premise. Unless there's some reason, which has yet to be given to this group for this radical departure from what we have, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. No need for hyperbole, I wasn't calling anyone a dictator, and yeah, being born where liberty and freedom is guaranteed by my Constitution, I do like my liberty to think the way I like. I have asked for changes to the text. And not shouted them, but no reply. Mark _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
