On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 11:21 +0100, Les Newell wrote:
> > And that's the key point Les.  There was no prior discussion.  As
> > was 
> > pointed out in another post, this CoC was created and implemented
> > with 
> > no input from the group at large. 
> 
> Um, I don't know if you noticed but we are having that discussion
> right 
> now. The CoC is not set in stone. It's just text that can be easily 
> edited.  Jeff introduced it. At that point there should have been
> some 
> rational discussion and any corrections made as needed. Instead
> there 
> was a completely unwarranted explosion of vitriol and paranoia. Jeff
> the 
> dictator is impinging on our FREEDOM! The CoC boils down to 'be nice
> and 
> treat people with respect'. Really, you are upset because you don't
> want 
> to be nice and others to be respectful to you? Even if you are,
> what's 
> wrong with just asking for a change to the text instead of shouting 
> about THE ESTABLISHMENT trying to CONTROL you. This are just a group
> of 
> like minded individuals, not some oppressive government.
> 
> Could Jeff have worded his announcement better? In hindsight yes but 
> remember the only way anything gets done around here is if someone 
> volunteers to do it. How many of the people here screaming about
> their 
> rights have actually bothered to contribute to maintenance of the
> source 
> code and the website? If you don't like something how about fixing
> it, 
> rather than getting upset?
> 
> Les


This is talking! this is constructive discussion, thank you, I
appreciate the good will to discuss and overcome prejudices, thinking
that there is "the establishment trying to control you" sounds a good
bit like conspiracy theory.





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