On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:13 AM Valerio Bellizzomi <vale...@selnet.org>
wrote:

> On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 09:58 -0400, Mark Wendt wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:44 AM Valerio Bellizzomi <
> > vale...@selnet.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 09:29 -0400, Mark Wendt wrote:
> > >
> > > > We still have not heard any reason(s) as to the necessity of
> > > > having a
> > > > code
> > > > of conduct for this list.
> > > >
> > > >  Mark
> > >
> > > In my organization I have established codes of conduct and it seems
> > > to
> > > be a winning choice for everybody, no one here is concerned about
> > > being
> > > controlled or enforced, they know that codes are a necessary thing
> > > for
> > > an organization to be successful in the long term and vis-a-vis of
> > > bigger and broader organizations with which we might interact.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> >
> > That's may all be well and good for your organization.  That doesn't
> > mean
> > it translates easily or well to other organizations like this
> > one.  This
> > group tends to be more oriented to machining, machine control and
> > programming.  In all the years I've been on this list, I've never
> > seen
> > anyone publicly harass anyone, though I may have missed a post or two
> > over
> > those years that did contain something like that.  Pretty much every
> > post I
> > see on this list is either someone asking a question or requesting
> > help,
> > and a whole lot of people jumping in to try and fix the problem or
> > help the
> > OP work their way through the issue.  This group seems to be based on
> > giving and receiving help for all the issues and problems that pop
> > up.
> >
> > Again the original question I asked needs to be answered.  Why is it
> > really
> > necessary to institute a Code of Conduct on a group that's already
> > well
> > behaved?  Legal Reasons?  Someone feels that we need a CoC just
> > because?
> > What is the impetus for having this imposed?  And why does the CoC
> > that's
> > been written have to include all the political nonsense?
> >
> > Mark
>
> here in my organization we are committed to software development and
> computational research, this does not exempt us from the necessity of
> codes vis-a-vis of other organizations which have one and the public
> administration which requires organizations to have one.
> You can live without a CoC for a small project, but as the project
> grows and start interacting with many other parties, it becomes
> necessary to be well organized.
>

Well, good for you.  You run your organization the way you want to.  Funny
how this group hasn't needed such a thing in all the years it's existed.

We could have adopted a very simple code of conduct which consists of one
sentence:

" In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as
contributors and leaders pledge to making participation in our project and
our community a harassment-free experience for everyone."

Would that not pretty much say it all?

Mark

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