> From: Andy Pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> > On 24 Jan 2023, at 15:38, ken.stra...@sympatico.ca wrote:
> >
> > But seriously, in my opinion a major impediment to the widescale adoption of
> > LinuxCNC is the lack of an appealing and intuitive UI.
> 
> There are around 12 user interfaces. Are you saying that they are _all_ 
> terrible?
> 

I'll jump in on this one.   They are _all_ great and they are _all_ terrible.

Imagine your average home shop machinist.  His kids are finally out the door 
and he's at an income level where he's got his lathe with a DRO and he just 
bought a small mill.  He starts looking at CNC.  

At work and at home he uses Windows.  And he's bought into the free Fusion 360 
con job for CAD/CAM and is now looking at how to add CNC to his mill.  

OMG.  What a hodge podge of systems.

So he starts on the various groups looking for what is available including even 
AliExpress which has CNC boxes for $300.

Not having used CNC before and not knowing anyone local the youtube videos 
become his other source of information and education.  The most interesting 
ones appear to be ones with 10's of thousands of subscribers that in fact are 
really long mostly to have multiple advertisers.  But at the time he's not 
aware that the videos are short on information, long on con for supporting lots 
of advertising.

IMHO, the more advertisements in really long videos the more likely the poster 
is there to monetize than to actually provide useful help.   How interesting to 
watch a milling cutter for 2 minutes go back and forth making chips.  Oh, and 
now another advertisement.

So someone on a forum recommends MESA.  
http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=83_84&product_id=215
Hmm.  Out of stock.  And even if it were, there's no diagram like the ACORN 
one.  So no idea where to start...

Oh but then someone suggests
http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=381&search=7i92

Now I need to wire to it.  A suggestion comes up for two of these and cheap too.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33015669728.html

Next motors and power supplies.  What to buy?  People rave about these new 
step-servos.  One brand in particular.  But what size?  Direct coupled or with 
belts and pulleys?

So back to the internet and youtube.  Ah, this guy has a mill like mine.  He 
used the Leadshine step servos and ACORN.   Ordered, installed as per the 
youtube video.  Making chips.

And he doesn't have to wade through deciding which of _all_ 12 or so LCNC user 
interfaces to use.

The above is I think the typical thought processes.

I'm still using AXIS.  Can't be bothered to spend the time trying to figure out 
whether I should spend $400 for a touch screen HDMI 21" screen or some other 
user interface.  Really miss the MACROs from MACH3 though.  I think that's 
what's called the conversational interface on Tormach?

John




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