David Seikel wrote: > When I made my E16 theme, I hacked the window menu for greater > usability, and it looks like I will have to do the same when I port my > theme to E17. In an effort to avoid menu hacking in a theme, I will go > over those changes and their reasons now. > > First of all is the position of the Close and Kill items. With my E16 > theme I found myself accidentally selecting Close, as the menu > starts with Close already under the mouse pointer. Traditionally, the > menu item that exits out of the application is at the bottom of the > menu, for a good reason. For languages that scan from top to bottom, > it makes sense that the last item you will ever select is the last item > on the list. To avoid accidentally exiting out of something that may > require some non trivial amount of work to setup again (things like, > you are half way through a big HTML form in your browser) it makes > sense to not make application exiting too easy. > Although I'm not a developer and atm things are made the way the developers like it I have to speak up now. I strongly disagree with this. I close almost all my apps with alt-right-click ->close, and I think that the close item is probably the menu item which is used most often. How many times are you going to change the remember settings or make a window sticky? I think the ordering of the menu should reflect how often you use a certain menu item. I think this kind of handholding goes strongly against the philosophy of keeping things simple and letting the user make the descisions. If I type rm -rf / I don't want to be asked are you sure, are you really sure... _REALLY_ are you sure! This is very annoying and it just makes things a lot less usable. Additionally when you close an application window, almost all apps will tell you that there are changes which haven't been saved and if you really want to quit. So the danger of loosing several hours of work is not even there yet, and if you really worked for several hours and did not save in between you deserve to loose your data. What is next? Alter the close button so you have to press it for several seconds, so you might not accidentally press it. Or everytime you stop or reboot your computer have a window pop up: "You are trying to shutdown your computer, you should do a backup before you do, are you sure you want to shutdown?" Sorry if I sound really harsh I don't mean this personal in any way but I feel very strongly about this because I think this alterations for making apps more "userfriendly" are in 90% of the cases making apps harder to use for experienced users.
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